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Season 5

ep. 514 - The "Yellow Book" and Other Serpo Observations

November 15, 2023 · 01:21:33

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Last week Kurt told the fantastic (unbelievable) story of Project Serpo, the classified program that sent 12 humans to an alien planet nearly 40 light-years away for a 10 year mission. Not everyone survived, and some chose to remain behind. This week we'll learn about what lead up to Project Serpo, what information we learned and other discoveries that have been made that make this already crazy story even crazier.

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You are listening to the
Primitive Intelligence podcast,

episode 514, The Yellow Book and
other Serpo observations.

Did you get a chance to listen
to last week's?

Did it was a bit of a roller
coaster.

It's definitely just when I
thought it might get boring,

it's it it it wasn't.
It was it was quite the

adventure.
It is a story now.

I've heard the story since I
think the website that's now

gone that Project Serpo.
I think that they put that up in

the early 2000s.
But I I swear I saw forum post

to some of the story back in the
late 90s.

So this has been around for a
while, this story.

But yeah, it gets there's a lot
of other crazy things.

So I we'll get into the yellow
book and some of these other

things that I I read about and
listen to because I did listen

to an audio book, too.
The story is crazy.

I'm not saying that I think any
of this actually happened, but

there's so much information and
it's so detailed.

I don't know who the hell would
have time to make up all this.

I really don't.
So this is one of those stories

where I'm I'm give you the story
and it's up to you to decide if

you think it's true or you think
it's BS.

That's just how this one's going
to be.

Do you have anything for this
week or are you just along for

the ride or this one?
I'm allowed for the ride.

OK, that's good because there's
there's enough here to keep us

busy.
So Rock goes back and you got

me.
We're going to get started with

episode 514 of the Primitive
Intelligence Podcast That

starts.
I thought I had this all figured

out when I I got to like 25% of
the way through the book last

week.
And I kind of scanned ahead and

I saw that they were talking
about this yellow book and it

looked like it had a whole bunch
of information on it.

So I figured I would, as I was
working, I would pull up a an

audio book and listen to some
more information about about the

Project Serpo and about this
trip they took to this planet

and I listened to, I don't know,
three hours of this book.

I got about 9 chapters in and he
never even got to the trip.

It was all the precursor of why
the United States acted the way

they did towards these aliens
and how this all came about and

why it was beneficial.
So what I originally thought

we're going to talk about was
just the yellow book.

Now the yellow book isn't an
actual book.

It is according to these
releases.

It is an 8 by 11 by 2 1/2 inch
plexiglass like device.

It's clear, it's got yellow
edges, which is where it gets

its name from.
And in order to activate it you

you have to look at it like get
your face near it and it can

tell the language that the user
speaks and will translate on the

family and show the information
holographically inside of this

device.
Now the device is the history of

the Eben culture or the Eben
race, most of the history of the

universe and history of planet
Earth.

Because Ebens claimed I've been
coming here for 5000 years.

Well, you know so.
I was.

I was looking for a book that
contained the entirety of the

information in the universe, So
I'm glad we got that down.

Now we know where to find it.
Well, we know it exists.

Well, we they say it exists, but
there's a catch, and I'll talk

about that.
The other book that they

reference is The Red Book.
Now, the Red Book is written by

humans.
It is the catalog experiences of

the US government and its
agencies with UFOs and

extraterrestrial encounters.
It is updated every five years.

So they do it in like volumes
and they'll they'll write the

information down, but they wait
every five years and then they

try to get as much information
as they can to verify what they

can and then whatever they can
verify goes into the book.

So this is similar to like
Project Blue Book where all this

information was held and they
they did the like the

investigation and now we've got
like the AIAARO which is

compiling all this information
as well from sightings mostly

from military and commercial
pilots.

So this isn't anything really
new, but this is I I the

department that handles it is
the Defense Intelligence Agency,

the DIA.
They're the ones who basically

are the caretakers of this book.
And that's what I thought

everything was going to be about
as I was going through this.

But like I said, I started
initially with the book Project

Serpo, The Top Secret human
Exchange program by Richard J

Dempsey.
That's the the book I started

with last week.
And then this week I listened to

about 9 chapters of Secret
Journey to Planet Serpo, A True

Story of Interplanetary Travel
by Len Kasten.

Now like I said, this was an
audio book and I, the woman who

is narrating this book sounds
absolutely flustered about two

chapters into this because it is
so bizarre.

She it.
It talks a little bit about what

Project Serpo is and a little
bit about what the beginning

from last week was, where the
it's the crash, the the Roswell

crash, which was actually two
crashes, not one, the surviving

alien and then the subsequent
exchange program.

But the weird thing about that
whole story, well other than the

story itself, is that they very
specifically state that when

they find this crashed craft and
they see the one alien is like

hiding in a culvert and like
looking out at them and they

approach it.
They offer it food and water,

and it accepts the water but
doesn't want the food.

And it it doesn't try to fight
them.

It doesn't it it doesn't freak
out.

They don't freak out.
There's no you'd think if this

is your first encounter with the
with the aliens, military or

not, you'd be like, what?
What the Hell's going on here?

There would be some kind of
overreaction, you would assume,

but there was none of that.
It's like they had already known

that this could happen or that
it had happened.

And that's where the second book
comes in.

This the one I listened to this
week where they talk about why

the Roswell crash was a stroke
of luck for the United States

and the world because previously
and they don't really get into

how but the Nazis had had their
own alien encounter and were

either given or obtained alien
technology in World War 2.

It's an absolutely crazy story.
Like I said it was audio book I

was working so I didn't have
time to jot down names and dates

and specific things.
But the the gist of it, I mean

it it took 9 chapters and I I'm
still not you know we're just

getting to the end of this.
But the gist of it is there is a

a Nazi scientist I believe who
is sent to Japan to bolster

their relations.
Because as we know in World War

2 Japan and Germany they work
together.

And this guy goes to Japan and
is doing the whole like

diplomatic thing and is
approached by this mysterious

group called the Green Dragons,
which is like almost like a

Japanese mafia I believe.
But they they were told to

approach him by the group that
controls the Green Dragons,

which is known as the Green Men.
And the Green Men saw an

opportunity for Japan to
continue its empire and rule the

world with the help of Germany.
Now, they used occult practices.

They were very mysterious.
The guy, this German diplomat,

soldier, scientist, whoever he
was, never got to meet directly

with them.
If if they were there, they were

shrouded in cloaks, he never got
to see them, so he has no idea

who they were.
But they would.

They would give him information
and they would teach him how he

could obtain information as
well.

They send him back to Germany.
And this is before, really the

worst of it starts with in World
War 2, even before World War 2

even really gets gets going.
But with the help of these green

men, this, this German guy
diplomat winds up going to the

government in the military and
saying this is going to happen.

And if we react this way,
everything will be OK.

If we react this way, we'll
lose.

And they have no idea what he's
talking about because these

aren't even events that they're
even thinking about.

Lo and behold, a couple times
this happens and he's right and

things play out the exactly the
way he says.

And this gets the attention of a
lot of higher ups because pretty

handy to have a guy in your
pocket who can see the future,

and he's getting his information
from these green men.

Now.
The green men were absolutely

certain that Germany was the way
to go because they could control

if they they give them the the
information they had, the

ability to create the the
weaponry they needed.

They had the the drive to do the
things that needed to be done.

But what they never took into
account was that Hitler was

batshit crazy and he went off on
his own script.

So he start making his own
decisions, countermanding what

the Green men were telling him
to do.

He was just ignoring it.
He'd he they got him so far and

he thought he was unstoppable.
He's like, I've got all this

power, I can do anything.
And so the reason why everything

failed is because he veered away
from He took his own occult path

and ignored what they were
telling him.

At some point during all this,
they obtain alien technology and

they start this program that is
most commonly referred to as the

bell.
And this is an actual project

that they know existed.
There is a facility somewhere in

Germany where there's a bunker
in the ground and then there's

this weird silo kind of tower
that comes up with what looks

like a bell tower on top of it.
And they really have no idea

what it was for.
But people immediately jumped to

this is where they're testing
this bell.

This German reverse engineered
flying saucer of this book goes

as far as to say that there were
actual photos of this, the bell

in flight with the iron cross on
it, like the German symbols on

it.
I've never seen this.

The only thing I've ever seen,
the only thing I've been able to

find, are pictures of a much
smaller, very conventionally

propelled disc shaped craft that
could fit like one person, like

standing up and it was on a
runway.

The.
Ones with fans, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had fans under them and it.

Looked like a if there was any.
But it was, it was real.

Yeah.
It was like a hovercraft

basically.
But it could, it could high, it

could fly higher.
And if there was any of them

that actually flew, I I think
there may be some footage

somewhere.
And I don't know if it was the

German version of it, if it was
an American who was trying to

advance the technology, they
always had them tethered and

they're always like all over the
place and they they weren't

stable.
But this the, the myth of this

of the bell just grew and grew
and grew and the the Nazis were

very into occultism.
So it's not really that far

fetched to believe that they
they would believe they had

alien technology if someone told
them that's what it was and they

they thought they were gonna get
ahead with it, well.

I I just like to think again.
I I'm my, I my brain won't leave

the fact that the green I'd like
to be a a family on the wall of

the green men's place where they
were really confused that they

couldn't control somebody who
wanted to take over the world.

That's that's one.
And then the second thing.

Oh yeah.
Is they had the knowledge to

control, like they knew how to
control certain situations, but

they didn't have the knowledge
on how to control him.

So just to be on the family on
the wall sitting there where

they're trying to tell him and
advise him and he's like this

crazy guy won't do what we're
telling him.

Yeah, yeah, this crazy guy won't
listen to these crazy guys.

Now I I think that what they
were trying to intimate with all

this knowledge was that they
could see possibilities of

either timelines or other
realities and how they played

out and that's what they would
base their information off of.

Like they couldn't see an exact
future but they could see like

like the weather men do you know
they they look at a model and

shows them it might do this it
might do that but this is the

most this is your your your best
option.

So I think that's how they were
getting this information that

don't quote me on that, that's
kind of what I got from it.

But there is also the Germans
wound up going to Antarctica and

this is before the war started
and they were setting up a

research station in an area
called New Schwab and land well

that's what they named it and
they created a fairly large

facility there.
And the rumor has it that they

found underground under the ice
caverns that had Thermo

geothermal pools in it that were
keeping it warm.

And that they were using this
like they had gone down to these

levels to be able to keep their
their facilities warm enough.

Because, I mean, the South
Pole's freaking cold.

And of course when the bell
disappears, probably because it

didn't actually do anything, the
the belief is that they took

this research, they took it to
Antarctica and they proceeded

with it in these giant
underground caves that are

geothermally warmed and all
this.

And then at the they say at the
end of the war, as the Germans

are surrendering, there were I
think three or four of their

most sophisticated submarines
just went missing.

They don't know where they went.
They they they know who the

captains were.
They know what the vessels were,

but they never found them and
they don't know where they went.

So the belief is that they were
actually on their way to

Antarctica, taking the last of
the people and supplies and

information that they could and
that there was a red herring

thrown out there that they were
going to Argentina instead of

South America.
Now there is a German population

in Argentina that they, or
they're pretty sure, are

descendants of a group of Nazis
that fled to Argentina.

Now they couldn't have done this
out in the open because

Argentina was against, you know,
they were, they were on our

side.
So they this is not like they

could have gotten sanctuary
there and be like, hey, we're

we're going to come live in
their country.

They would have had to sneak in
or change your credentials or

whatever.
But the fact is now there are

German villages that have a very
German heavy German ancestry in

Argentina and there there's
almost no evidence of a German

base under the ice in in
Antarctica.

But they they talk about these
two attempts to destroy this

base in the 50s I believe.
I think it was in the the late

40s or early 50s where they they
sent down a group of I think

Navy or Marines to Antarctica
and they went to a spot where

they thought this base was and
they found these caverns and

they they walked in.
They walked for miles.

Like I think they said it took
him like 10 hours to reach the

far back areas of this, these
caves.

And when he got back there they
surprised the shithead, all

these Germans, they're just like
how did you get in here?

And they they started firing.
They because they knew what was

going on.
There was a a battle that took

place.
And as they left, they set off

the detonating explosives to try
to collapse the entrances behind

them.
They came back to the US, they

reported what they found and
then they sent it was Admiral

Byrd and Admiral Nimitz.
They sent them on a six month

journey down to Antarctica with
the the goal of annihilating the

space go back to these
coordinates make sure it's gone

because we're not sure we got
them.

Now I didn't look into this
because I I just I again, I

wasn't writing down the
information so I, I I I wasn't

going to go listen to like 6
hours this of this audiobook

again.
But they say that there's I

think three of our vessels
vanished.

They later on they they were in
this group and then later on

were decommissioned after years
of being nowhere.

What they're saying is that as
they got close to where his

bases, these German Bell ships
came out of the ice, came out of

the water and just started
blowing the shit out of their

ships.
They had no defense from they

couldn't like.
They were like moving in ways

they couldn't explain.
Our our planes were no match for

them.
And they just, they turned

around, they canceled the the
mission and they turned around

and they left.
And the US is like we've got a

problem because we can't defend
against this.

There's nothing we can do about
this.

Like that's technology well,
well beyond what we we have.

And then there was before the
moon missions, apparently

there's some kind of telemetry
that shows a a space well, a

rocket or something leaving
Earth's atmosphere from the

South Pole.
Now how true any of that is, I

don't know.
I didn't research any of that.

But as as the final stage of
this is stages of this is going

on is when an electrical storm
takes out two alien spacecraft

in Roswell, NM and we make
basically an alliance with these

evens and that's when Project
Serpo starts.

So we go to Serpo with the
intent of getting technology

because we need to be able to
fend against what the Germans

have.
And on these many interactions

we have with these, with the
EBEN race, they bring the yellow

book as a gift.
It's.

Kind of like The Hitchhiker's
Guide to the Galaxy book.

Yeah.
Didn't they have a book?

They did have a book.
But yeah, maybe something

similar.
I mean, it had all the, it had

all the information, all the,
all the answers in it.

Now the book, like I said, is is
not an actual book.

It is a device, the yellow book.
And it's it's it's very smart

because it knows who's reading
it.

So if you speak fluent English,
it shows you the information in

English.
If you speak fluent Spanish, it

shows you in Spanish.
I think they said like 9 or 10

languages, it could it could
decode and then there was images

and there's all this
information.

The problem is, and it maybe has
something to do with our

Physiology versus the even
Physiology because they don't

seem.
You didn't seem to mention this

or say that this could be a
problem, but once you start

reading it, you can't stop.
If you stop reading it and you

you go back to it, it starts at
the beginning again.

It it can't remember who you are
or where you got to.

So that's a problem when you're
talking about from the beginning

of time till whenever and.
Day one and And then you get

distracted by a squirrel.
Day one, Yeah.

Day one, yeah.
So now remember, the Ebens have

no sense of our time.
They use a completely different

time scale.
So everything that we can get

from this book, we can't really
verify to a time because it it

doesn't match our time.
But the the guy who's the

anonymous, who is the guy who's
sending these posts, one of the

DI, they call themselves the DI
6, the the six people who are in

charge of all this information
in the Defense Intelligence

Agency.
He said.

He personally has sat down a few
different times for up to 12

hours to read this book and
every time he's got start from

scratch and there's nothing.
Nothing is said as to whether

you can like look at it and just
like skip, skip, skip, skip or

if it just shows you this
information And then like on a

time its own timed intervals
there's like imagine if you

can't skip.
No, that kind of that kind of

technology would last long with
me because I'd, I'd be reading

it in about 10 minutes in.
I'd be like it would just it

would I would, I would I
wouldn't be able to keep that in

my hand be like Nope, Nope no,
it's.

Or be like Facebook, can you
create a table of contents for

yourself?
Thank you.

Who knows?
If they tried that, who knows?

But they they say that I think
that like 36 hours was the

longest anyone was able to sit
there and read it.

Because eventually like even if
no matter how hard you try

eventually you're going to pass
out.

And like it's got to be, it's
got to be smart enough that you

can look away for a minute and
then look back.

But I think it's once you end
the session and then you go

back, yeah, then it, then it
resets.

So I don't know how they got
some of the information that

they got here from it, but it's
it's very, very interesting.

Let's.
So let me let me look at this

real quick because my, my notes
are a mess.

I was just using voice to text
as I was reading the book and

just blurting things up.
So the other day you came over

and when you walked in, I was
sitting on my sofa reading this

book and it was like the
technical manual of the UFO.

And I'm trying to read it and
I'm like, I I couldn't tell you

of any of this was it's just
telling you how the engine

works.
Like they don't know what the

materials are, but the way it
works is it creates ionized air

and it changes this and I'm
reading it.

I'm like, OK, that's all great,
but there's How do you verify

any of this?
You have to build it.

You have to build it.
But we don't have the materials

and we don't understand the
science or the power inputs.

They use like 0 point energy.
They got this little box, it's

like a little clear box that's
got I think 2 plates in the

bottom.
It's filled with a liquid and

there's a little black dot,
little bead in the liquid and

when you put it to anything, it
doesn't matter what it is.

If you if you connect your
computer to it, it generates the

exact amount of energy that your
your computer needs.

If you connect it to your house,
it generates the exact amount of

energy that your house needs.
If you connect it to your city,

it generates the exact amount of
energy that your city needs.

And it's different frequencies.
In this liquid that you can see

it like vibrate.
There's like little tiny specks

in there that will vibrate at at
like 4 or five different

intervals to generate this
power.

And they have no idea what it is
or how it works.

And I've heard of that before,
this this silver box or this,

this clear box.
You've never heard of that.

But like, again, how do you
prove it?

There is this guy's like, oh,
I've got, I got pictures of all

this and I'll put him up and
then his e-mail server gets

hacked conveniently.
So it's like, do you, do you

have photos of these, Do you
think by now something would

have leaked, especially with all
the disclosure and all that

that's been going on?
I think somebody would have, you

would think at the congressional
hearing maybe crush or somebody

would be like oh, in that whole
Project Serpo thing that was

real.
Yeah, it's it's such a

fantastical story that I I'm
having a hard time not poking

fun at it.
Like if you told me that you

know the energy source was a
potato.

You know, I'd be like, oh, OK,
yeah, Potato clock again, I

apologize, but it's it's very
fantastic.

It's it's unbelievable.
It's just what it is.

It's absolutely unbelievable.
I I had the same when I first

started reading this 20 some
years ago.

I was like, this is, this is
just somebody's overactive

imagination.
But I didn't, I wasn't reading

all of it.
As I'm reading this book,

there's so much information and
the people that are commenting

on it are vetted military,
government and intelligence.

People that keep saying we don't
know who this Anonymous is.

But the way he's releasing
information, the terminology

he's using it, it matches.
This guy either has done his

homework and has researched
intelligence or he's legit.

Not saying that his his story is
legit, but that he is.

So is this just this crazy
disinformation story?

Is there a little bit of
something in there?

But it's 95% bullshit.
And there's we have some

advanced technology that we've
come up with, but in order the

best way to hide it is to bury
it under craziness, you know?

Is that what's going on?
So the Yellow Book, the History

of Earth, of the Universe, of
the Ebens, and of Life on Earth

as written by the Ebens.
Day One, they claimed the first

this the the further this story
goes, the crazier it gets.

So they first claimed to have
visited Earth over 5000 years

ago.
They're species Their their

planet.
The there's star is Zeta

Reticuli.
The star system is a binary star

system.
It's about 38 light years from

Earth.
They claim they've been coming

here.
They use they are able to they

can't travel faster than light.
They can get close, but then

they use some field that warps
time that the change like moves

them into a different like zone
of time of space.

That allows them to either
compress or fold space so that

it still takes them ten months
to to travel 40 light years.

But they're not actually
traveling faster than the speed

of light, they're changing the
distance basically it's like

some weird like 5th dimensional
kind of they can change the

actual distance.
So they've been coming here for

5000 years and they at one point
say that they planted a human on

the planet.
Not they created humans but they

planet a human.
Now they're in that story from

last week there is talk of them
cloning other races.

So they had the the ability to
clone.

So I don't know if they use the
clone, but they they clone or

they they place a human on earth
to implant the knowledge to grow

a civilization.
And I don't know that it's

actually ever said by anyone.
But the inference is that this

was Jesus, or that maybe Jesus
wasn't real and the story of

Jesus was playing it by them or
by this person, this person.

They plan it to create religion,
to help control people and move

them in the right direction.
All right.

So so 5000 years ago,
civilizations out there, all of

a sudden this guy shows up
clipboard briefcase and he's out

there trying to push people in
the right direction.

No, no, maybe didn't have a
briefcase or something like or

something like that.
Yeah, you know he's, he's doing

the whole the Family Guy thing.
He's like that and that and that

and that and that and that and
that and that.

You know, but yeah, so that
that's what what they're

claiming.
Now this obviously rubs a lot of

people the wrong way 'cause
people immediately jump to, oh,

you're saying that we're an
experiment or we're we were put

here by them.
I didn't, I didn't read it that

way.
I just read it that they they

came here they were visiting and
maybe saw potential in humanity

and in the human species and
wanted to nudge us in the right

way.
So they did it in a way that

they thought was not gonna be
that bad.

Of course.
Surprise.

Look what we got going on now.
Religion was the worst thing

they could have done.
But yeah so that's that's what

they did.
This book also talks about

again, I I can't even go through
all of it because it's just like

the actual they don't call it
The Big Bang but the the the

point of creation.
Up to like the explosion it

starts to cool down.
Quarks and antiquarks are

formed.
Quarks and antiquarks annihilate

each other till there's only
you'll just whatever there's

more of survives.
They wind up breaking down into

protons and neutrons.
Atoms are formed.

Stars start galaxies like this
whole thing, and it's pages and

pages and pages and pages in
like 10 to 33, 10 to the 33rd

power, seconds after the initial
expansion of the universe, like

like incredible amounts of
information.

And again, there's no way that
you can look at any of this and

prove that any of it is true.
So they they get to the point of

Earth that they came here,
right?

I thought this was going to be
this incredible vault of

knowledge, this yellow book
part, because I like I said, I

looked ahead just before I
recorded last week and I saw

information on on dinosaurs, on
the fastest dinosaur, the

largest dinosaurs.
I'm like, did they have it like

categorized like all this?
Is that what's in the rest of

this book?
Because there was, it was 609

pages, this this book and I was
only 1/4 of the way in.

I'm like, this is worth reading.
If this is the information

that's in there, I'd love to
read this.

No, this is the the book's
confusing.

The author of the book took the
information from the website per

diem and created a book out of
it.

So the author of the website of
the book really only wrote like

the first half a chapter and the
rest of it is this website.

The website was or the mailing
list was maintained by this this

gentleman, Victor Martinez.
Victor Martinez got all these

releases from this DI 6 and then
would put it up on the the

mailing list and then eventually
the Project Serpro or the

serpro.org website, which is now
defunct.

But he would correct for
grammar, but he would also he'd

get like an e-mail from him.
Now imagine reading 600 pages of

someone else's emails.
Oh God no.

That's what this book was like.
But so the Anonymous would send

this thing about the yellow book
and give, I don't know, 3 pages

of information.
There would then be a chapter

and a half of information put in
from this Victor Martinez about

the time periods, the time
measurements from like

femtoseconds up to like like all
this stuff.

And that's what I saw The week
before wasn't the actual yellow

book.
It was just this like additional

information added in, like
additional reading so you can

understand what this three
paragraphs was.

There's like 60 pages like I was
like, oh.

My God, I could have ended this
last week.

I just kept reading for a couple
minutes.

But it gets better.
So we'll jump onto the Red Book,

because there's now remember,
the Red Book is the the human

book that catalogues all of our
interactions with ETS and UFOs

and things like that.
And I'm guessing that these are

stories from the Red Book
because it mentions the Red

Book, but doesn't specifically
say that these are Red Book

stories.
But they should be.

The first story that that I read
about is it's a classified

project.
That is, this is what's

frustrating with this.
This anonymous gives these

emails to this Victor Martinez
and then at the end of the

e-mail says this other
information, the name of the

project, the name of the people
don't release that.

So this Martinez has the
information, but then he redacts

the emails.
So it's like project

XXXXXXXXXXXXX on in this state
XXXXX with these people XXXXXX.

And it's like why why even
bother releasing it?

Why give the information if
you're not going to allow it to

be released.
So he's he's talking about this

unnamed classified operation
where an alien spacecraft that

is approximately 45 feet in
diameter is found embedded in

the rock layers in question
mark.

They do, they redact where it
was found.

They do testing on the rock and
on the material of the

spacecraft and find that it's
been there for 150 to

200,000,000 years.
Wow.

They go into this, the craft.
They find the remains of a

species, a humanoid like species
with larger heads.

They they can't determine if
they were even or what they were

because they're just skeletons.
But they also find remains of

what they believe are dinosaurs,
that these aliens were coming to

Earth 200,000,000 years ago and
they were observing the

dinosaurs.
There's technology.

The ship's in pretty bad shape.
It's been here for at least 150

million years.
So it's in.

It's in pretty bad shape, but
it's still recognizable.

It's it hasn't like rusted away
whatever materials you're using,

but there's evidence of their
technology.

But of course, we have no idea
what any of it is and we have no

idea how to power it.
And even if we could power, it's

been around for 150 million
years.

It's probably not gonna work.
But so we have this, this

crashed ship showing that
they've been coming here for

millions and millions of years.
The next one they talk about is

kind of Serpa related and it's
at the Ebens returned in 2009.

In November 2009, they landed at
Johnson Island, a toll I believe

in the Pacific.
It's a American territory and

had a meeting with the US
government in the Pope.

And the only information it's
really given is that this is

supposedly a a fairly regular
occurrence.

Like, at least once a year it
seems like the evens will come

and they'll just touch base with
us and then they go and then

they're like, oh, we'll be back
next November.

The funny thing is, is the
information they give on this,

and this is the only reason why
I even put it in here, is they

even show up and they bring the
six technological devices.

They don't say what they are and
they they give them to the US

government and they give them to
like everybody there.

And they say these are for you
to learn from and to help

contact us and for you to help
to help you learn our technology

and how things work.
And we're like, oh, that's

awesome.
Thank you.

And the Pope's like, hey, I got
this.

Some paintings for you.
Give them.

Just give them some paintings.
And they're like, oh, sweet.

Like we just gave you like all
the answers to the universe.

You gave us some paintings, I
guess.

What else are you going to give
them?

What?
I don't know.

You give them a Pope hat or
something.

There'd be like, I mean, because
they they look a little bit like

Grays.
So I just picture like remember

American Dad?
Remember Rodger from American

Dad?
Wasn't there.

Wasn't there an episode where he
was wearing a Pope hat?

I'm pretty sure he was, yeah.
That's like a picture.

So yeah, we give them some
paintings and they get back in

the ship and they're like, I
will see you in a year.

Thanks.
And they come back in in 2010

and then they schedule another
meeting for 2012.

So apparently even as recently
as 2012, they've been here.

Then they talk about Project TS.
This is this, this is where I'm

reading these stories.
And it's just like, I think this

anonymous guy is just like, how
crazy can I make this?

Someone calls bullshit.
So TS involves U.S. intelligence

capturing an alien that was
living among us.

This occurred in 1980.
The story claims that a human

woman started being abducted by
a non human man back in 1977.

He would take her through this
light bubble or light curtain,

and when they walked through it,
they'd come through to a

different place and he'd show
her these holographic images of

alien life on another planet,
and then he'd bring her back.

He wound up giving her this
triangular device, never

explained what it was for.
She was never harmed and only

taken to be shown these images.
So this guy would just show up

and be like, come on, it's time
to go.

And he looked human, but she
knew he wasn't human.

And like, I don't know if she
had no, like, she she like, she

had no choice.
Like she had to follow him.

But they'd go through this light
curtain, He'd show her all this

stuff from an alien planet, he'd
bring her back and he'd go on

his way.
So one day this starts really

getting to her.
This has been going on for three

years, and she thinks she's
going crazy.

And she winds up breaking down
one day at work and telling a Co

worker what's going on.
And the Co worker immediately

calls the police because she's
like, there's something really

bad going on here.
She thinks she's being abducted

by aliens.
Like this needs to be

investigated.
So the police get involved

immediately.
Once the police get involved, I

think the CIA shows up and
they're like, we got this, don't

worry about it.
And the police like, it's like

clearly, like abuse or
something.

And they're like, Nope, we got
it.

Because they've been following
the story and they know that

these abductions have been
taking place, but they've never

heard of this, this human man,
yeah, this new one.

So they talk to her and she
tells, She tells her story.

They do some investigation.
They track the guy down.

They.
Found the guy.

They track him down.
Yeah.

They they find him.
She calls, she calls him a

creature.
Was he the creature?

No, he did at one point.
When he abducts her, he they go

through this light and then this
other creature appears.

She was clearly not human and
gives her in part some

information to her.
That's when she broke down and

she's like, I can't do this
anymore.

And she tells her friend and
then CICICIA shows up.

So this this guy is, I guess
he's walking around claiming to

be an alien.
He's like, I'm an alien.

He tell, he tells somebody he's
an alien.

So the CIA or whoever is
investigating this, they they go

get the guy and he doesn't try
to run.

He just kind of goes, OK, yeah,
you got me.

I'll go with you.
I'll answer any questions you

got.
So they bring him in.

They they question him and he he
tells him he's from the star

system.
Delta Pavonis, which is

approximately 20 light years
from Earth, lives on the 4th

planet from their sun.
It's roughly the same size as

Earth and his species gets
labeled by our scientists as the

septaloids.
Now every so the the the

Anonymous says our scientists
have some weird fascination with

naming everything something a
Lloyd.

I think everything's a
septaloid.

A tantaloid and which just
basically means having the

appearance of right.
So SEPTA is 7 right so so seven

arms or 7 something.
They're shape shifting race

seven eyes maybe.
So septaloids, they can shape

shift, so he can appear human,
or he can appear to be a tree,

or he could appear like.
A skin Walker.

Whatever.
Like a skin Walker, SO answers

all their questions.
He never tries to escape.

They're like, we're gonna put
you in a cell and he's like, OK,

so he's in a cell.
And then apparently Jimmy

Carter, President Carter
contacts him and says you gotta

let him go and you're like, but
he's a he's a septaloid, Like,

he's like, no, you need to let
him go.

So they release the guy, he
walks out the door.

Gone.
Yep.

Just gone.
What they what they believe is

he left the planet.
He got caught.

He was all right.
Well, they all right.

They know what I'm doing.
Time to leave.

And off he went.
I'd like to know what he was

doing though.
Like, he's like, hey, come on

with me.
See, see that thing over there?

That's pretty cool.
Look, look, look at that.

Look at that.
You see that, that that was

pretty cool too.
Like, that's the whole point of

it.
Like what?

Teaching people?
Like, maybe she wasn't supposed

to remember getting people ready
for something.

I can understand if it was a
psychological test to see if he

could break her.
How many things could he show

her before she breaks now, the
other, the other point to that

is that there was somebody that
was abducting her and it was a

psychological experiment, but it
wasn't an alien, all right,

Right.
I mean, there's there's plenty

of weirdos out there, right?
And we're talking the 70s into

the 80s, so who knows?
I mean, a wall of light you're

walking through and you're
seeing holographic images of

another planet.
And this, this, he's a shape

shifting it.
That sounds a lot like LSD to

me.
I was going to say they were

doing a lot of testing.
A lot of lot of, yeah, a lot of

people were doing a lot of
testing on random people.

So I I could understand that it
wasn't always groups that were

doing it.
It was just random people that

were like, oh hey, let's see
what happens if we give you.

This, well, some of this stuff
was even legal back then because

it was never, it was never
around enough to be illegal.

So they could have been just
people in in their in their labs

or getting from who knows where.
So yeah, well, yeah.

And you've, you know, there's
also what they call the my lab,

right, where it's military
abductions and they're they're

testing people for to see what
they're like.

You said how far can you push
them before they break, right.

It's it's not unheard of that
that happens just to like

whistleblowers let's say, you
know if you, you see something

you're not supposed to see,
well, they're going to, they're

going to push you until you seem
crazy and then no one's going to

listen to what you say.
But in order to know how far you

have to push somebody, you got
to push people, right?

So you just pick a random person
and you let's make her think

she's seen aliens, see, see, see
what these drugs do to just the

average person, just in case we
need to.

You don't know.
And just because some of these

people in this group were
military and intelligence

doesn't mean that they were
necessarily Privy to information

that all branches of the
military in intelligence are

doing.
So some of the stuff could very

well have been other projects,
like what's the the one they

always talk about with the the
LSD.

MK Ultra was it?
Or MK Ultra?

Yeah, that's the one.
So like MK Ultra which isn't.

It's not a secret anymore.
We know it happened. the US

government was dosing people
with LSD to see what happens and

not some people were doing it
voluntarily and some people

weren't.
So we you just don't know like I

don't remember what years that
was going on, but it was

sixties, 70s, right?
So it could have been.

Yeah, and you don't know.
You don't know what you don't

know.
Like, so it could have been, who

knows what could have continued
or branched off.

Yeah.
It's so again a lot of these

stories are like, was this were
some of these stories planted in

there to see if people just
bleed everything.

I don't know.
Now the the last story that I

read before I just my brain was
like, that's like I can't handle

any more of this.
The this guy brings up actually

a very good point and I believe
it was it was anonymous one of

the anonymous because I I think
they they've rotated through who

was actually sending these
emails because the the tone in

the emails is different.
Some of sometimes the emails are

very hey, here's this
information we're glad you have

it.
Sometimes it's like hey you're

asking a lot of questions you
know so the the tone changes us.

So I think it's different
people.

So at this point, whoever is
anonymous at this point ask the

question if if the dinosaurs are
around for 185,000,000 years and

we base intelligence off of
brain size to body size ratio,

and we look at some of the the
cranial cavities of dinosaurs

that we found, we can safely
assume that we we don't know

exactly how their brains work.
So maybe the same thought

process doesn't work, but we can
safely assume that there were

some possibly sentient level
dinosaurs just based on their

brain size to their body size.
So at least very smart, right?

Is it possible that a race of
dinosaurs could have gained

sentience and been smart enough
to have left the planet?

Well, if you look at that,
because there's a lot we, you

and I have talked about this,
that if there was a civilization

prehistory, we would never know.
Yeah, you're talking, especially

if there was.
Millions of years ago.

Millions of years ago.
Especially if there was like the

the the KT boundary event, the
the OR the the younger driest

event or any of these
cataclysmic events, the Ice ages

would have wiped cities clear.
We would never even know they're

there.
There's a lot of reports people

claim that they see these
reptilian aliens, right?

And we we call them the the
Sarian race, right?

These these lizards.
Now I'm pretty sure that comes

from sci-fi, because I can just
think of like Doctor Who or the

lizard people live inside the
Earth.

Or if you think of it, weren't
they called the Sarians?

I know, I know, I've heard it
well.

Land of the Lost had the
Sleestacks that was in the 60s

or 70s.
And I'm sure, I'm sure if if you

go back far enough the word
black and white or not even TV,

I'm sure you could find radio
shows.

Yeah, I'm sure.
But is it possible that some of

these lizard alien reptilian
aliens aren't actually aliens

and and this will kind of tie
back to our the recent, you

know, this year disclosure where
Grush says he refused to call

them extraterrestrial, just non
human, like they're non human

craft.
What if they What if it is some

race of dinosaurs or some
intelligent reptilian species

from hundreds of millions of
years ago that did leave the

planet and are coming back?
They're not extraterrestrial.

They're from Earth.
They're just coming back.

Well, and that's they're non
human terrestrial beings.

That's where you have one of
those logic, those fun logic

experiments.
So it's like, OK, there were

creatures here 100 million years
ago.

That's a given.
Yeah, we know that there's a.

Something else happened.
And.

And then we came up.
But you don't know what

happened.
Could they have evolved?

Could there have been a
civilization?

Yeah, there could.
Like, we would never have any

idea that anything was here
before.

And maybe they maybe they went
underground, like, maybe they're

like, oh, well, you know, we'll
keep a base here or there.

Underwater.
Yeah, underwater, 'cause

they're, they're.
And when you look at ancient, a

lot of ancient cultures, there
are some very weird depictions

of other beings.
Well, and we don't know what

they could possibly mean, but
could it be tied to it?

And and I like to maybe like,
it's fun to think about

reptilians or dinosaurs or
whatever you want to call them,

though.
Yeah, but the Earth's been

around a long time.
It could have been anything.

Like literally there could have
been any other form of life that

could have evolved and you're if
you're talking like 100 million

years something else.
Some other form of like could

have evolved like us and got off
the planet or under planet like

if under planet.
Like like the Ant, maybe they

just got wiped out.
Right.

Like the Ant beings that I think
the Hopi are in the Hopi legend

and stuff like that.
Yeah, the Ant man, yeah.

And they they lived underground
and they they came from

underground and then went back
underground and took the Hopi

with them to save them from a
cataclysm according to their

stories.
So it's there's a lot of weird

stories like that that you could
kind of tie into it.

So it's it's one of those things
where do do I think this, the

Project Serpo story is true?
I don't even think it's like a

110th of a percent true.
Could there be some real

information in there?
Yes.

That maybe not portrayed heavily
masked real information like do

I think that we have technology
that is beyond what we're told?

Absolutely.
I I think to not believe that is

crazy.
Do I think we have a secret

space force I I to.
To me it's a cool thought, but.

It is a cool thought.
I don't think so.

I think, I'm pretty sure that
would have leaked by now if we

had a couple thousand people
living on space carriers.

Or on the moon, Yeah, I think.
I think somebody would have saw

that.
But this to me, there's a lot of

these stories and I don't know,
I can't remember the verbiage, I

can't remember what, how it's
what, what the terminology is.

But when if you, if you're
having leaks there, you would

spread information different,
various different kind of

information to various different
kind of people.

And then you sit back and wait
to see what you hear back,

because it'll come back where it
leaks from.

And then you could find out
where it came from.

So that to me, I think is
probably pretty standard and a

lot of pretty much anything
organized.

I don't, I don't even want to
say governments just.

So to me, you might have a
fantastical story like this.

Maybe there are some?
Very.

The lightly you know light
truths in there that really

wouldn't be a problem if they if
they came on yeah like I there's

there's clearly something going
on just because you know with

what's going on with the like
disclosure and these these

things are being seen and
reported.

I don't know what they are.
I don't know what they could

possibly be.
Is it extraterrestrials or

interdimensional?
Is it some weird natural

phenomenon that we've never
encountered?

Is it is there a breakaway
civilization on the planet, like

that's that was where they were
headed with the the Nazis that

went to Antarctica?
And I've heard this story before

that there's a group of people
who broke away and their their

technology is more advanced than
ours, but not by a whole lot

because they're still working
with the same materials that we

have.
But there always seems to be

something that's just beyond
what we have.

That's that to me sounds the
most plausible.

Only because we we know humans
and humans like power.

And if you if you think about if
you follow history back as far

as you can, if people have
power.

And they figured out a way to
keep that power and keep that

control.
They're going to figure it out.

And then and then if you think
about generation after

generation after generation,
it's plausible that that you

could have people that figured
out a way and breakaway

civilization sounds again, like,
I would be surprised.

You could say that if if you
said there was a breakaway

civilization amongst us so they
didn't really break away, yeah,

I'd I'd be just, I'd be like,
OK, that makes sense.

You know it doesn't.
They're not like they're off in

a corner of the planet
somewhere.

Well, yeah, 'cause where?
Where would that be?

You know, where, where could you
possibly hide?

No.
If you are that powerful and

you've got that kind of pull,
you could be just outside of,

like you could be just up in the
mountains somewhere.

And have enough pull to have
those satellite feeds changed to

where they no one would ever see
you, you know.

So yeah, I don't know that it's
a breakaway.

You know, I know some sometimes
the the story goes to, oh, they

they broke away.
So they made spaceships and they

left the planet and you know,
now they're coming back again.

That's a big jump.
But could they have technology

at their disposal that they
could disguise as?

Like, like, we wouldn't know.
Like if you walk, see someone

walking down the street and
they've got what looks like a

phone, but it's something
completely different, you

wouldn't.
You're not going to look and see

what they're doing.
You're not going to pay

attention that close.
So they could literally be right

right around us all the time and
just using stuff that looks very

similar to what we have until
they know there's no one around

and they pull out there, they
hit a button and it turns into

like a holographic screen or
something, you know?

It's could that be and then they
they cede some of that

technology to the the the rest
of us to the you know the tech

industry and then they let that
come out slowly and then we

catch up and then it gives them
time to fund their next thing

that they're working on.
You know they they maintain a a

power of sorts and it can kind
of be amongst civilization but

still be above it and beyond it.
I mean, I would be in a cabin

somewhere.
It's like, Oh yeah, I've never

seen me.
I I I have no, I have.

I have power and I don't have to
worry about anything.

I don't have to worry about
working a day job or two or

three in in today's world.
And you know, where would I be?

Would I?
I mean, I guess some people

would want to be in the middle
of a city and put me next to a

pond in the mountains.
Yeah.

Because the the big thing about
stories like this that always,

always pop out at me are if
these beings are coming here

with the best interest of
humanity, why have they not just

shown up?
Why are they going to the secret

locations to talk to these
governments that they know

aren't?
Doing what they what they could

possibly do.
They're taking this knowledge,

like if they're coming, if they
come here and they're like, hey,

here's here's this device that
creates free energy for your

people, right?
And you're like, we did a good

thing.
We'll be back in a year to see

how you're doing with that.
And you come back in a year and

that thing's nowhere to be
found.

And like, hey, we.
That was here, right?

We gave you the little.
We'll give you another one.

We thought we dropped it off.
Here's.

You should plug this into your
grid and everybody's got power.

You'll be fine.
You come back a year later and

it's gone again.
You're like, what the.

But you're not, oh, you're not
disseminating this information.

Next time we show up, we're just
going to show up like over a

city and be like, hi, we've been
giving you government stuff and

like, what are they going to do?
What would we possibly do?

Yeah.
What would the government do if

that happened?
Like they couldn't stop him.

Well, no, but on the flip side,
why wouldn't that happen?

I mean, we have a society where
it's going to happen soon

actually every year people
really freak out about what's on

a cup from a coffee place.
Oh my God.

I can't believe they put this
cup out of the thing with the

cup and the and so you know, I,
I, I don't know what will happen

if you completely dissolve
people's image of what reality

is.
I I know that's always used as

as an excuse but I can point you
to one fairly recent event that

should have shattered so many
people and it's 911 and and

people didn't panic.
They didn't break down.

They got their heads out of
their asses and.

For a brief time, everybody
stuck together.

That's true.
So to say that people would just

because remember it's shortly
after 911.

There was, I think it was an
earthquake in Canada that

disrupted a power grid that
shorted out the main power grid

going to New York City.
I remember the day this happened

because I was walking in my
house from the store.

I walked in the kitchen and the
lights, it was like a brownout.

The lights went and I was like,
well that was weird.

Like it made a weird sound in
the like it was like like

everything.
Like it was like someone took a

pan.
It was like punking, but you

could hear it to the powers.
Like it was like this really

massive event.
New York City was out of power

for like 3 days.
This is after 911.

That is the prime time when
people should have.

Absolutely lost their shit
because it's like another

attack.
Nobody knew.

They had no way of knowing what
actually happened because

everything was down and it
didn't happen.

People came out of their houses,
they went in the street.

There was no riots.
There was no fights.

There was no looting.
Everybody went, oh, OK, this has

happened and he stuck together
so that everybody's just going

to go, oh, you're not going to
freak out.

I don't see it happen.
You're going to get some people.

That's going to happen.
Because they're programmed to

freak out over everything.
But I think the sheer shock of

it is going to be enough to snap
people out of it just long

enough to realize what's going
on and just long enough for it

to become normal, and then
they'll slowly freak out about

it as cause.
Shock is a funny thing and yeah,

you could just have an all out
panic attack and some people

will, but I don't think
civilization will just.

Go crazy if that were to happen,
And if they're that, if they're

that powerful, I bet they got a
way to show up and like, have a

little beam that comes out and
just like, hey, everybody calm

down, Just calm down.
Don't freak out.

You're fine.
And honestly, the people that

freak out.
And and go run off into the

woods and and disappear.
Good.

Probably we don't need them
anywhere.

We don't we don't need those
people anywhere.

We need to calm the fuck down.
Let's let the aliens come and

let the the crazy people do
their crazy things.

And you know again if they're
that powerful, all right we

there's reports and they they
talk about this in disclosure.

There's reports of, like the
Minuteman sightings, the

Minuteman missile.
Instance where these things

showed up over nuclear silos.
Nuclear showed up over nuclear

silos and deactivated our
missiles, completely overrode

our systems.
Now that is common knowledge.

Even if you don't believe it,
it's it's common enough

knowledge that if you're going
to freak out over something,

that's something you should
freak out about.

So if if somebody were to have
some really bad reaction to

aliens showing up and be like,
well, we're just gonna nuke

them, it wouldn't happen, 'cause
they'd just be like, no, you're

not, We're just gonna neutralize
those things for a little bit.

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about
that.

I'd be more worried about, you
know, people freaking out like

just the average everyday.
Freak out anyway they do.

They freak out anyway, They want
to change the name of the like

some stars and some of like
whether the.

Magellanic Clouds because
Magellan was a bad guy.

Oh, he's a bad guy now.
Well, I mean, I don't know

actually.
Though he was studied Magellan

in a long time.
I mean, I everybody was a bad

guy back then.
It was everybody was trying to

colonize everything.
So they they came to South

America and they just like
ransacked South America.

And that was a lot of that was
due to him, but.

It was a different time back
then, and we got to stop

worrying so much about what
people did back then, whenever

it was.
And whoever it was, we got to

stop worrying about that and
really pay attention and worry

about what we're not taking care
of now because they're so

worried about the past.
Yeah, I agree with that.

So I'm I'm ready for the aliens
to come.

Oh, and they did it again.
What did?

What happened again?
Mexican Congress?

Another meeting?
No, they didn't did it.

Yes, they did.
They didn't bring the little

mummies out this time.
And I'm I I haven't watched it.

I I haven't even looked for it
because I don't know if I want

to sit through another one of
those, but.

What's his name?
Jose.

That guy.
He he he brought test results.

The the, the institution, the
institute, the college that I

messaged.
They never got back to me, but

they came out and said, look, we
don't know about the ones that

he's showing, but the ones that
we had, we studied for four

years.
They were complete beings.

They weren't human.
We we don't know where they came

from.
We're not saying they're aliens,

but they weren't pieced
together.

They were not fake.
The ones that we have were real.

There's other scientists that
have looked these these mummies

saying they're not pieced
together.

They were complete creatures.
We don't know where they come

from, but they're not human.
I haven't looked in any of this

because I'm 95% sure that the
ones that went to that Inkari

Institute right was that no, it
wasn't the Inkari Institute,

whichever that the the institute
in Peru was.

I'm pretty sure they they knew
that the one had like fingers

ripped off of it, that they were
just people, that they're humans

and they're now they're saying
that they're non humans, that

Thierry, Yemen is now.
When it first came out he was

like, I want nothing to do with
this.

You guys stole those mummies.
All of a sudden he's back to

yeah.
Look what we found.

We found these mummies.
It's it's also crazy and it's it

doesn't help anybody with
anything.

I didn't hear anything about it.
They need to.

It's.
I heard about it like a month

ago that there was going to be
another hearing and then I just

saw something pop up the other
day and it basically that's all

it.
It was exactly why I said they

did it again.
That's basically the headline.

Another Yeah, they didn't bring
him out this time and it was

just it wasn't really a UAP
hearing.

It was just about these little
mummies I'm going to have to.

I I really if if there's
anything to it, if they if there

is some kind of weird species
that we had on the on the

planet, maybe it's the saurians,
maybe it's the the advanced

dinosaurs from the past.
If if there is something to it,

I want them to release those.
Those bodies to or or even have

like international team of
scientists show up document it

and let them look at them
because they're they're not

letting they're very picky about
who they let look at them

because they know these people
are going to back them up and

that's not you got to let you
got to let people who are

skeptical come and look at them
and be like because if you get

someone skeptical.
Who goes and goes like, this is

a, this is a doll.
And all of a sudden they're

like, holy crap, this is real,
that's huge.

And if you've got something
that's real, if I had something,

if I was trying to tell you that
this was like, like water from

Venus or something like that,
and I was trying to sell it to

you and you're like, no, it's
not, I want somebody to test it.

And I knew it was water from
Venus, I'd be like, find me the

most skeptical person you got
tested.

That's water from Venus.
I wouldn't be like, Nah, I'm

gonna let my guy look at it, you
know if you got nothing to hide.

The only the only.
You shouldn't be hiding stuff.

The only thing I wouldn't do is
give it to the Smithsonian,

because then it would just
disappear.

No, we just they don't make
things disappear.

I will never forget the the show
I saw where I forget what they

were talking about.
But it's in the in one of the

Smithsonian buildings, and
they're talking to this.

Like adjunct professor or
something who was teaching and

his office was in this building
and on the shelf behind him, he

had like 6 huge skulls that were
like human skulls, but they were

like double the size of a human.
They weren't.

They were not apes.
They weren't.

They were red hair.
There's like red hair on them

and they're sitting on the shelf
and he's going not.

There's no such thing as giants.
They're right behind you.

Literally.
They're sitting on your desk.

Yeah.
And then that was fascinating.

They managed to see that.
Like, I forget what they were

even talking about.
It might have been that that

show they did about using
science to prove or disprove

biblical stories where they were
talking about, but it didn't

have.
Like the Vatican?

Yeah, it didn't have anything.
To do with giants though, right?

It just happened to be some guy.
It was just some guy who just

had some skulls.
Just some guy.

And he had giants behind him,
but like and you're like you've

been looking.
At the same guy they interviewed

for another show about Giants.
He's like, no, we don't have

anything like that.
And I'm like, I just saw you in

another show and the skulls were
on your desk.

Yeah, And there was like 6 of
them that wasn't.

Because there was a human skull
next to him and there's like

these big freaking skulls.
Yeah, yeah.

The Smithsonian makes things
disappear.

Yeah.
There's like a there's that's

there's a warehouse somewhere,
You know, you open it up.

Guarded by top men.
Top men, yeah, there's I or

somebody buys them and there's
some rich guy like Bezos or

somebody has like a room and
there's like full.

He's got like an alien in there,
just like just stitching

together little fake mummies to
sell the Peru like, well, you.

We all know that.
Who knows?

So, you know, there's some very
wealthy people that probably

forgot to even have things.
Yeah, you know, or or they never

even saw it.
It's just in storage somewhere.

Yeah, they bought it.
And they're just like, yeah, I

want.
I want to have that.

Do you know what it is?
Don't care.

Just put it in storage.
Right.

I own it now.
Yep.

Yeah, they don't care.
So yeah, maybe I'll, I'll look

at the the the last Mexican
mummy thing but I don't know if

I want to get back into that
because that was, that was a lot

of work.
Well, I'll look that was.

So much work I'll I'll I'll not
see if I can find anything on

the Internet.
Yeah, but I'll look for some

links.
I'll just send them all to you.

You can cover it.
This time you you can you can

watch the four hour YouTube
translate it from Spanish to.

English.
Oh my God, that was so hard to

watch.
It was so hard to watch.

That was bad.
And then the the whole part

where they got, they listened to
who they wanted to talk to and

then they start bringing on like
the the Japanese guy and this

Russian guy and all these people
and there's all the translators

have left.
So they're just talking.

Everybody's looking around like
insane.

It was so bad.
Yeah, but yeah.

So that's Project Serpo.
I don't.

I it's a cool story.
It's just a it's a cool story

and it's something that I've
heard about for so long.

I just had to really look into
it.

But it's there's just there's so
many side alleys to that story.

Like the like I said, the one
book I never even got to the

actual project Serpa was 9
chapters of Nazis.

And I'm like, what?
What?

I'm like, am I on the right
book?

I had to keep on looking like,
no, it's the right book.

Like what did he talk about?
And then they'd say something

about aliens.
I'm like, OK And then they'd go

back to Nazis for like an hour
and I'm like, Oh my God.

So yeah, I never actually
completely read the other book

either.
I just got to a part where I was

looking for the the the headings
like we're anonymous for sending

stuff.
Because it just became like

20-30 pages of additional notes
about dinosaurs and particle

physics.
And I'm like, I don't like this

has nothing to do with things.
I'm just like, turn the page,

turn the page, turn the page,
turn the page, turn the page.

Oh, OK oh, they they shot one.
OK, turn the page, turn the

page, turn the page, turn the
page.

Oh, oh, that one's a shape
shifter.

Turn the page, Turn the page.
Turn the page, turn the page.

Yeah, it was.
It just got, it got pretty bad.

And I got to that last one and I
was like about the dinosaurs and

I'm like, I'm out.
This got too crazy.

That was the story, all right.
Dinosaurs in space?

Yeah, definitely a story.
I want to find something that's

a little, little lighter for the
next episode.

It's not.
Not so, Not so.

Complicated like, yeah.
This is the This is episode 14.

I have done probably 8.
Massive stories that my brain is

just like buzzing by the time
I'm done reading everything.

I'm like, Oh my God, I don't
know how to do this.

I just want like a fun Bigfoot
story or something.

It can never go wrong with a
Bigfoot story.

It can't go around with a fun
Bigfoot story, but I don't know.

But I'll I'll find something
that's a little less it doesn't

require.
Reading of encyclopedia and

listening to 9 hours of Nazis.
Yeah, that's awful heavy.

Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot that's going to do it

for this week's episode.
Hope you guys enjoyed it.

Thank you so much for sticking
around and making it all the way

through the Project Circus story
if you didn't listen to last

week's episode.
You can go back and listen to

what they are.
You can kind of keep them

separated, but definitely
recommend going back and hearing

the craziness of our mission to
Zeta Reticuli.

If you have anything you want to
hear us cover, you can reach us

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That's all I got.
You got anything to to wrap up?

Anything.
Any words of wisdom about the

dinosaur, aliens and Mexican
mummies?

Yeah, if you stumble upon a cave
with some Mexican mummies or an

old spaceship with dinosaurs,
just do yourself a favor and

walk the other way.
Send us an e-mail.

That's all I got.
Talk to you next week.

See ya.
Thanks.