ep. 502 - Disclosure

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Disclosure, the Primitive

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Now, unless you've been living

under a rock for the last few
years, you probably know what

I'm talking about when I say
disclosure.

If not, I'll give you a real
quick rundown.

What I'm talking about is the
government and government

agencies finally starting to let
some information about what

they're now calling UAP's or
Unidentified Anomalous

Phenomena.
You may know them as UFO's with

the phenomena that you're
talking about.

They're starting to actually
release some information not

really of their own accord,
information to get leaked from a

2004 incident and a couple
others that kind of forced their

hand.
They had to start actually

looking into this.
Congress got a little upset

because they weren't informed of
any of this, and it appears as

though there may be some black
projects that should be under

oversight of the Congress that
they have no idea exist.

There are three people who have
come out as witnesses and

whistleblowers.
Actually, it's probably more

than that.
But the three that we know of

right now, you may be familiar
with the Tic Tac incident.

You may be familiar with the
recent whistleblower David

Grush.
And the third witness, I never

had heard of his.
I'd never heard his name before,

but he is a former pilot who has
witnessed some things, has been

told some things, realized.
There's no way to report it, and

it's still an issue.
People aren't safe in the air,

and he started the foundation
called Americans for Safe

Airspace I'll put all these
links down the bottom, but the

bulk of what I want to talk
about right now is the July

26th, 2023 House Oversights
National Security Subcommittee

on UAP's.
This is a legit actual

subcommittee that happened that
talked about UAP's and about

their threat to national
security.

I'll put a link.
You can find it.

You can just search for that and
you'll find it.

I'll put a link to I I want to
say it was either NBC or CBS was

the the one I just watched.
But I've watched it a couple

Times Now and I wanted to pull
out the information that I

wanted to talk about some stuff
that I thought was very

interesting or pertinent to the
the conversation here.

If you've listened to any
Primitive Intelligence podcast

episode, you probably were
expecting me to cover this.

And you're right.
There's a lot to talk about now

just to lay out the way I'm
going to cover this.

I'm not going to do a word for
word or second for 2nd recap of

this hearing.
It was 2 hours and 20 minutes

long.
You need some time to go through

the whole thing.
I'm going to pick out the parts,

like I said, that I find
interesting or pertinent, and

we'll talk about those and some
of these things.

Some of the questions that were
asked were asked several times

by different people.
There was 20 or 30

representatives of Congress and
the government on the committee,

and then there was the three
witnesses.

And then there was a bunch of
people there in the, like, I

guess you'd call audience
observing.

So some of these questions were
asked several times with

different people in slightly
different ways.

That's just government for you.
So I may not have the wording

exactly right, but I'm I'm going
by the like the gist of what was

said.
And then unless I say it's it's

a direct quote, I'm also giving
you just the gist of what was

said because some of these
questions were asked to all

three and then they each gave
their answer.

And if they were basically the
same answer, I just kind of

amalgamated that together.
So let's go ahead and get into

this.
The the very beginning of this

oversight committee is all of
the, well, all the head

officials that are there.
They say a little bit about

themselves, who they are, why
they're involved, and you know,

a few other things.
Not a lot of interesting stuff

pertaining to UA P's.
But there was a couple of

interesting tidbits that were
dropped by Mr. Grothman of

Wisconsin.
He's the chairman of this

committee.
He did say that in 1966,

President Gerald Ford and in
1969, Jimmy Carter both claimed

to have seen UF O's.
He also stated that NASA and

Arrow, you know Arrow is a ARO,
the all Domain Anomaly

Resolution Office.
It is a relatively new

department, and it's it operates
under the Department of the

Secretary of Defense.
Both NASA and Arrow are both

running independent, separate
investigations in UA P's.

Now, the A ARO has already come
out recently and said they have

no credible evidence of any
nonhuman craft or any UA P's.

That's what they're saying.
That's their official stance.

But there's a lot of people
saying otherwise right now.

So they're both running their
own investigations and I I don't

think NASA's investigation has
come out yet.

So they'll be more than that at
some point.

Then they they also, he
mentioned the Chinese spy

balloon, the one that got shot
down off of the coast of the

Carolinas.
And I think we all know about

that.
But then he said there was 2 UA

P's that were shot down in the
following few weeks.

I thought it was four, maybe it
was 2 that are UAP unexplained

and two that they knew what they
were, I'm not sure.

He did not elaborate.
He said after Chinese spy

balloon 2UA P's were shot down,
several more people go through.

They they talk about who they
are or why they're there, to

then get into the opening
comments of our three witnesses.

The 1st is Mr. Ryan Graves, a
retired F18 pilot.

He is the founder of the
Americans for Safe Airspace and

he had some interesting things
to say.

Now again, this is just his
opening statement.

Here's the highlights I pulled
out of it.

He says that more than 30
commercial and military

personnel have confided him with
sightings and experiences with

UA P's.
He says that UA P's are in our

airspace and sightings are quote
routine.

He didn't say that they're seen
occasionally.

It's routine.
This is happening all the time.

2014 As an F18 pilot he was
stationed at Nas Oceana in

Virginia Beach and after radar
upgrades they began detecting UA

P's.
This is, this is key.

We're going to talk about this
at the end too.

After upgrades they began
detecting UA P's and then

shortly after that 2F eighteens
were flying.

I think you said tests are on a
on a test flight.

SO2F eighteens flying together,
they were split by a dark cube

inside a clear sphere.
It came within 50 feet of The

Jets, and it was between 5 and
15 feet in diameter.

Now, 50 feet proximity, that
doesn't seem like a lot when

you're standing on, you know, if
you're on the sidewalk and your

neighbors across the street,
they're probably 25 feet away.

Double that you think, well,
that's not that close.

But when you're flying in a jet,
50 feet is close.

They then moved on to David
Grush, our most recent

whistleblower.
A lot of what he says in his

opening comments are just to
state who he is, what his

credentials are and how he
became a whistleblower.

Because after his recent
interview, I guess a lot of

people are questioning who is
this guy, never heard him.

He's he's been a member of the
intelligence community for quite

a while.
He did also say that while with

National Geospatial Intelligence
Agency, never heard of, that he

was the Co lead in Unidentified
Anonymous Phenomena in Trans

Medium Object Analysis.
So UAPS in TMOS, trans Medium

Objects.
The only that there was this was

not expanded on.
The only thing I can think I

have not looked this up.
I think I've heard this phrase

before and I think it's anything
if you've heard, if you've heard

of UFOs, you may have heard of
Uso's unidentified submerged

objects.
So they're in the water.

So I'm thinking trans medium
objects are anything that can go

from water to air or air to
space or any combination of

those three.
I mean there's been anecdotal

reports in the past of UFO's
flying into mountains, maybe

that's a trans medium object, I
don't know.

OK, so he was the Co lead on
analysis of these things.

He was also informed of a
multidecade UAP Crash Retrieval

and Reverse Engineering program.
That's when he decided to go

whistleblower.
I guess he'd gotten information.

People talked about it.
He had seen things, He'd seen

documents.
People confided in him.

He realized this wasn't being
reported, and it was not, it was

not within the oversight of the
people it should be.

And he went whistleblower.
The third witness, they have

David Fraver also retired pilot.
This is the pilot that recorded

the Tic Tac video, now Tic Tac
video.

This happened.
Tic Tac happened back in 2004

and I believe it was leaked in
2018.

I think it was officially
recognized in 2021 by the Navy.

But the video had been
circulating and then finally the

Navy was like, yet this is real.
This is really our footage.

This is his.
This is a summary of his story

of the Tic Tac incident.
He said during a training

mission, it was, it was him in
an F18.

I think he said F18.
So an F18.

This jet that he was flying has
two seats.

So a pilot and a copilot or two
pilots.

There was two of these jets, so
4 pilots.

They were on a training mission.
They got pulled out the train

mission and assigned to what
they called real world tasking.

So basically no longer training.
It's not a test.

This is actually something we
need you to go do.

They were sent to investigate
objects that had been observed

for two weeks coming down from
80,000 feet, which is like the

edge of space rapidly descending
to about 20,000 feet, he says.

Hanging out for hours and then
immediately just going straight

back up.
When they approached the object,

they witnessed white water in
the ocean off of their right

side and he said this is
important because it was a clear

day.
There should have been.

There's no nothing out there to
cause white water, wind was low,

seas were calm, but there was
white water.

They then saw a small white Tic
Tac shaped object.

If you're not familiar with the
Tic Tac, think a cylinder with

round ends, A small white tic
Tac shaped object moving

abruptly over the water.
He said like a ping pong ball.

So I'm guessing just kind of
back and forth.

This is a direct quote from him.
There were no rotors, no rotor

wash or sign of visible control
surfaces like wings of rotors

and rotor wash.
Think helicopter all right.

The the blades on the helicopter
are called the rotor.

Rotor wash is if you've ever
seen like Coast Guard

helicopters oversee rescuing
fishermen or anything that I've

ever watched this show where
that happens, you can see the

air affecting the water.
That's rotor wash.

No rotors, no wash, no wings, no
control surfaces.

Just a smooth white tic tac pill
shaped object in the sky.

They went to get closer.
The object was about 12,000

feet.
They came down and it

accelerated away like that.
His jet was going to

investigate.
The other jet was staying up

high to be able to observe his
jet and the object.

They all lost sight of this
object.

It was gone.
Air control contact to the pilot

and said the object was now
roughly 60 miles away.

This happened in less than a
minute, he says.

You can do the math.
I did 3600 miles an hour if it

went a mile or 60 miles in one
minute, 3600 mph.

Now just to put that in a little
bit of frame of reference, and

this is kind of hard to even
fathom, but the SR71 Blackbird,

the fastest production jet ever,
made 3500 miles an hour.

The X15, which is the fastest
prototype jet, 4250 miles an

hour, 3600 miles an hour, is
pretty fast.

And that's not saying it.
That was its top speed.

That's just what it did, and it
apparently did it effortlessly.

Now, Frager also said that the
92nd clip of the Tic Tac video

is all the evidence that
surfaced.

There were radar tapes that were
that should exist, but they've

never surfaced and that the
event was never investigated or

discussed for these opening
comments.

And then went into more of a
hearing where individuals in the

committee asked questions and
they got answers.

Now like I said, I'm not going
to go representative by

representative and what they
said.

If you want to know the finer
points of who said, who asked

what questions and what the
exact answers were, you can go

ahead and watch the video.
This is just a generalization

question.
Our pilots adequately trained on

how to deal with the UIP
encounters.

The answer was no, and there is
no reporting outlet available.

Stigma and repercussions prevent
most from speaking up and if

they do, it's never investigate
it.

That becomes a pretty big
central point of this, that if

there was a way to report this,
there would be more reports.

Next question Do UA P's cause a
threat to national security?

Mr. Fraver, the Tic Tac pilot,
says yes, and here's why.

He says UA P's that he's
observed of capabilities far

exceeding anything that they had
at the time and anything that he

knew that was in even
prototyping, anything that was

even expected within the next 10
years.

Then, Mr. Gray has made probably
the single most important

statement in the hearing, and I
don't think anybody even

realizes it.
When asked do UA P's cause a

threat to national security?
Graves says yes, and he goes on

to explain this.
Since pilots have no way both

military and commercial, they
have no way to either report it

or they fear the stigma or the
repercussions of reporting it.

This can be used to an enemy's
advantage, what he's saying

there.
And if you think about this, if

someone wanted to invade the
United States and they could

make their their planes look
like UFOs, they would get

ignored.
They would get ignored.

They just fly right through and
nobody would say anything

because they didn't want to seem
like they're crazy.

That right there, that alone is
enough for there to be a

reporting option for pilots.
So that kind of thing doesn't

happen.
They asked Mr. Grush, do you

believe that our government is
in possession of UAP's?

His answer was absolutely based
on interviewing over 40

witnesses over four years.
They asked Mr. Graves, how do

you know these aren't our craft?
Generally?

His answer was because of the
how they maneuver.

He made the analogy of when
you're fishing and you throw a

bobber in the water, it moves
with the current.

So they've observed these
objects that are stationary.

They hover, but they're not just
hovering in the atmosphere.

They're not just staying in one
place in the atmosphere, in the

air.
They're locked to a coordinate

on the ground.
They're not touching the ground,

but they're locked to that
coordinate, he said.

They've seen them in Category 4
hurricane strength winds not

budging until they're ready to
move, and then they take off at

supersonic speeds.
A statement like that makes it

hard to say.
That's a balloon, They asked Mr.

Grush, have you been retaliated
against?

His answer was yes, but he can't
discuss it because it's under

investigation because as a
whistleblower he's afforded

certain protections and they
aren't being observed, so it's

under investigation.
They asked him, do you know of

anyone else?
He said yes.

They asked if he knew of anyone
who was injured or murdered for

coming forward with information.
He said he has to be careful

with how he answers that, but
that anything that he's witness

has been reported to the proper
authorities.

He made a statement during this
part talking about how people

are retaliated against, how it
affects their careers, how it

affects their personal lives and
he called it administrative

terrorism.
They asked about his experience

as of being whistleblower and if
at any point through the

retaliation he felt in fear for
his life, and his answer was

yes.
In a previous interview they had

talked to Graves about a
incident that took place at

Vandenberg Air Force Base and
they asked him to talk about

that.
And what he said was that in

2003, Boeing contractors were at
Vandenberg.

They were working at flight.
No, I'm sorry, they're working

at launch facilities.
It was around 8:30 in the

morning, I think you said early
in the morning.

And they sighted a 100 yard
square, So football field sized

Red Square.
It's a gigantic Red Square

approached at low altitude from
the ocean.

Hovered at low altitude over a
launch facility, stayed there

for a matter of 3045 seconds,
something like that, before it

darted off over the mountains.
That's huge.

That's a huge thing.
He said that a similar event

took place later on the evening,
but from the sounds of what he

says, it was with multiple
objects and they were acting

more aggressively towards the
witnesses on the ground.

He did say that official
documentation had been

submitted.
That's weird.

I don't know if I'd want to see
a football field sized Red

Square flying.
They asked him if commercial

pilots are receiving cease and
desist orders from corporations

to stop them from reporting
these as safety issues.

Basically, his answer was yes.
The point was it made American

corporations are putting their
own reputations ahead of public

safety.
His reply to that was it appears

so.
So then they asked Mr. Grush, do

you know of anyone with or do
you have direct knowledge of

craft of non human origin?
His answer was yes.

Now I'll get into that non human
origin phrase later.

They then talked for a moment
about how these projects could

be in operation with a no
oversight and where are they

getting their funding from.
It was it was said to basically

misappropriation of funds.
This this is vaguely specific.

This question and this came from
one of the committee

representatives.
This came from a government

representative.
Our corporations overcharging

the government for tech and is
that additional money going

towards these programs.
The answer was correct through

something called Irad's.
The implication here is that

corporations are involved in
these programs, these retrieval

or reverse engineering programs
or something with UA P's.

And they also have connections
to the government, with services

or products, technology, things
like that.

And with in order to get paid
for the Black Project, that

money needs to come from
somewhere.

So a lot of times that's got to
be run through Congress.

There's got to be oversight.
There's a there's bread crumbs

that follow that money.
The best way to make that money

disappear is to overcharge for,
let's say, something like a

toilet seat, and then go ahead
and spend the rest of that money

on the black project.
Not saying that particular

incident is what's going on, but
that's what they're implying.

They then asked about with the
amount of this is this is common

criticism, number one that they
touched on with UFO's, with all

the satellites that we have, all
the imaging, all this, all

everything, everything is
monitored all the time,

satellites that we know of and
satellites that we don't.

So you asked him, are these
satellites catching this

activity?
Basically, yes.

Has the government become aware
of actual evidence of

extraterrestrial, otherwise
unexplainable forms of

intelligence?
And if so, when do you think

this first occurred?
Grush answered yes in the 1930s.

Common UFO criticism #2.
How can they be so advanced?

Come from so far away from the
hunt?

You know, if they're coming from
light years and hundreds of

light years away, you can make
it all the way to Earth and then

a crash, Grush says.
Regardless of how advanced you

are or what your technology is,
if you fly enough sorties, if

you fly enough missions, a
certain percentage of those will

end in mission failure.
Two things to take from that.

They're not unstoppable, but
they're flying a lot of

missions.
If we do have craft, we're

bodies recovered as well, Crush
says.

Biologics were recovered as
well, Yes.

And then asked human biologics
answer was nonhuman.

Again, we'll talk about nonhuman
here in a few minutes.

So then Mr. Langworthy was
talking to Mr. Fraver, the Tic

Tac pilot, and they're talking
about, you know, do you feel

threatened or or any of this?
Was he armed?

He then asked if he thinks that
the Tic Tac could have been shot

down and Mr. Forever vehemently
said no, it would have just

left, Mr. Langworthy then
stated.

Looks like we have a problem
here that needs further

investigation.
It's a very serious point and it

got a laugh.
People kind of chuckled, but

that is concerning that these
things, they can show up when

they want, they can go where
they want, they can disappear

when they want and there's
nothing we can do about it.

Then the last little grouping of
questions that I that I pulled

information from was and this,
these, this was answered by all

three.
So I'll, I'll put all their

answers together.
Could they be collecting

information about us?
The answer was yes.

Could they be testing our
potential?

Yes.
Could they be interested in our

nuclear capabilities?
Yes.

Very interesting.
It's two hours and 20 minutes.

This isn't.
This wasn't done in a way that

was disrespectful.
This wasn't done.

Nobody was rolling their eyes or
asking if they heard The X-Files

music or if they wanted to
believe.

This was taken very seriously
both on the committee side and

on the witnesses side.
This was not something to be

taken lightly.
At one point, Mr. Fraver as he's

explaining what he's saying and
he's like you.

I I'm not a UFO person.
I'm telling you what I saw.

This is not a joke.
Some interesting takeaways that

I I got from this that were kind
of sprinkled throughout this

hearing.
UAP's are mentioned in treaties

to avert unintentional
retaliation.

Official treaties between
nations mentioned UA P's.

So just in case one shows up and
sets off a missile or makes an

aggressive act that appears to
be by another country, there are

articles in place in these
treaties to make sure that

retaliation does not happen
global.

They asked Mr. Graves how many
people, how many pilots actually

report sightings and he said his
estimation it's about 5 percent,

5%.
They asked Grush, were there any

known injuries to humans by UA
P's?

He said yes, Not by working on
them, not by something that we

knew what it was.
Non human craft UA P's have

injured humans.
They talked a favor about the

Tic Tac and asked if it was
possible that there was a second

craft there because of the
whitewater and he said that they

didn't witness anything else,
but they kind of joked that the

Tic Tac was communicating with
whatever was under the water

creating the whitewater.
So that was already in her minds

also with the Tic Tac.
And this goes through to a

couple other things as well.
After the initial Tic Tac

encounter, he went back to base.
They sent out another group of

planes.
I don't know if it was

immediately, if it was shortly
thereafter, with the same radar

gear as they approached where
they they knew they were, the

radar got jammed.
This is kind of, this is kind of

interesting because there's
instances that they talk about

where upgrades to technology, of
our technology, and suddenly

they're they're visible and that
they can easily deactivate this

stuff.
The three of the subcommittee

representatives were called to
an investigation in Florida

where a flight crew experienced
what they said was 4 objects

flying in a diamond pattern.
When they approached it, what

they saw was a giant sphere.
The congressional

representatives tried to get a
hold of the evidence and talk to

the crew.
They were told no.

They had to flex their political
muscle to get any information.

They got one picture and talk to
one person on the crew.

They looked at the picture.
Now they didn't show the picture

in the hearing when they said it
was clearly not ours.

And they asked the crewmen, why
is this the only picture?

Why isn't the radar tape?
Why isn't there Fleer?

Why isn't there video?
Why is there only the one

picture?
What happened?

And they said that they were on
a training run.

They weren't expecting anything
to be there, but all their

equipment is running anyway.
When they approached the

objects, everything
malfunctioned and the only way

they got the one picture was
they had to manually take the

picture.
But everything malfunctioned.

All, not their flight control,
but all their monitoring

equipment malfunctioned.
So again, radar being jammed,

equipment being disrupted.
So unrelated to they were not

mentioned in this hearing.
But if you've ever heard stories

of the Minuteman missile, silos
and objects appearing over them

and missiles being deactivated,
this is a common thing that

happens with these and then
grushes use of nonhuman instead

of extraterrestrial.
And they asked him about this is

he why do you use the phrase
nonhuman instead of

extraterrestrial?
What is, you know, is there

something you know?
And basically he said that he,

he wants to keep an open mind.
He doesn't want to assign an

origin to them.
And there are possibilities that

they it could be
extraterrestrial or it could be

an origin of something that we
just don't understand.

And they asked them, do you mean
extra, you know, other

dimensions?
Because you've you've mentioned

this before.
He mentioned the the theory that

the universe is just a hologram
and then he talked about other

dimensions and it really made me
kind of think because I I was

wondering about why what's the,
why did they change it from UFO

to UAP.
And you know, that's because it

denotes anything that flies or
anything that's on the ground or

anything that's underwater.
It's they're trying.

It's it's meant to encompass all
of it, and it's also a little

bit of being able to control the
narrative.

But the nonhuman, I noticed this
immediately.

I watched Grush's original
interview where he he came out

and he was talking about he was
mentioning nonhuman, nonhuman,

nonhuman.
And then when you you tie that

in the extra dimensional, extra
dimensions or whatever, when you

look at it feels like the
population is being groomed for

something.
When you look at popular culture

in the past ten years or so,
you've seen this, this idea of

alternate timelines, other
dimensions, other universes

slowly start to sink in.
Like get ready for it now.

I I believe that in this
universe, if the universe is

only as big as we think it is
and it could be bigger with all

the planets, all the galaxies
all the stars, all of that, to

think that we're the only
intelligent life to me seems a

little narrow side, little
blind.

Do I think that they they've
come here?

I don't know.
I I don't know.

I've seen some weird things.
I don't necessarily think it was

extraterrestrial.
But when you add the the layer

of other dimensions on top of
that, now you just exponentially

increased the amount of life
that could be out there.

And by saying by mentioning
other dimensions and non human

not extraterrestrial, to me it
opens the idea that they're not

from another planet.
These things are not from

another planet.
They're from here, but they're

from a dimension that's just
slightly off from ours that we

can't perceive unless they want
us to.

So they're not extraterrestrial,
but they're not ours.

Now, that's just my that's where
my mind goes when I hear that.

And I put those two things
together, but it opens up a lot

of possibilities.
Now, the hearing was

fascinating.
It's a lot of information, but I

have concerns.
I've never known any government

agency to just allow the stuff
to go out.

If they really want to keep it
secret, they will.

So if we're being told if we're
if this is, if this is the

information that we have, you
know it's been processed, it's

been sanitized and it's been
conditioned for our consumption,

we're we only are shown what
they want to show.

It makes me wonder either a What
aren't they showing us?

What are they?
What they trying to hide or be

scarier yet?
What else is going on in the

world that they don't want us
paying attention to?

That they're jangling the shiny
object of UF O's in front of us

to keep us distracted?
That to me, is the scariest

part.
I don't know what to think.

I don't know what to make of all
of it.

And I'm sure they'll be more.
I'm sure that there's going to

be more, and this is going to be
an ongoing saga.

I don't think we'll ever get
that 100% disclosure that people

want.
I think what we're getting now

is a peace offering.
It is.

It's just enough to hold people
over, to make them think they're

getting the information that
they want to have.

But I think it's just the tip of
the iceberg in one of those two

ways.
Either there's way more to this

than they're telling us, or this
is the distraction from

something else.
And man, I don't even know who

want to know what something else
is.

If it's UF O's are the
distraction or UA P's are the

distraction, that's a crazy
thought.

I will almost certainly do more
on this topic and another

episode.
I've already done a bunch, been

recording for a while, so I hope
you guys enjoyed this.

If you have questions or if
you've heard something else,

please reach out either
printofpodcast@gmail.com or come

over to
primitiveintelligence.com and go

to contact and shoot me a
message.

Or if you're watching us on
YouTube, send me a comment

however you feel like getting
out and touching with them.

However you feel like getting in
touch with me at.

I'm on Facebook as well with
this.

Let me know, have you ever seen
one of these cubes in a sphere?

I've never heard anybody explain
that.

I've never seen anything like
that.

Never heard anybody explain
anything like that.

That's kind of weird.
Or just 100 yard cube, Red cube

that might.
That might be something that

actually freaked me out.
I saw that.

I don't know.
Let me know what you guys think.

Thank you so much for listening.
Thank you for sitting through

all this.
This was a lot of information.

It was very dry, but it's very
informative, I think.

Hope you guys are enjoying the
new season.

Thank you again so much for
listening.

That's going to do it for
episode five O 2 with the

Primitive Intelligence podcast.
See you.