ep. 515 - Flattened Out

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episode 515.
Oh, let's call it flattened out.

Going to talk about I don't want
to call the documentary, going

to talk about a video I watched
yesterday.

I wanted to keep it simple and a
little fun this week after like

two months of heavy research.
And yeah, I watched this last

night and it's something.
You know what I'm talking about.

I I I know what you're talking
about.

I didn't watch the whole video,
but I've seen and heard concepts

that were discussed and it's
it's fun, it's very

entertaining, it's entertaining.
This also ties into episode 4,

O2 I believe I did last year on
Flat Earth, so our last season

on Flat Earth.
So we're going to talk about

that.
It'll just be kind of an off the

cuff kind of episode.
No research was done.

I have no notes.
It'll be good.

So we'll just jump right into
it.

Episode 515 of the Primitive
Intelligence podcast starts.

So trying to keep it light and
simple, I had a couple ideas of

what I want to talk about and I
was just kind of looking at

little things here and there
throughout the week.

And then last night it just, it
popped up in my YouTube feed as

I was working.
And it's the video I, I guess

mockumentary.
Is that I, I maybe they're

trying to be serious.
They.

No, I think they're trying to be
serious.

They think it's a documentary,
but it it's called Level With Me

and it's about Flat Earth and it
is one of the most ridiculous

things I think I've ever seen.
I I've, I've, like, I've

followed every once in a while.
Like again, it pops up in my

feed or I hear people talking
about it and like the whole Flat

Earth thing has been evolving to
a certain point to where I guess

he called devolving.
I don't know.

But it gets it.
It gets got to a point where.

And I heard some of these topics
and I'm like I just it's it's

gone beyond ladder.
Yeah look I'm I'm all for people

thinking outside the box and and
doing their own research and

questioning you know what what
you're told and what you're

taught because I I think that's
healthy.

It's it's good to look at
different points of view and

some of it is fun and some of it
you can you can see the point

they're getting at with some
people.

But there's especially this
group in this video.

Now I there's a few other
channels I watch sporadically

that they aren't flat earthers,
but they are, that they're like

actual scientists and teachers
and very intelligent people who

pull these videos from a lot of
the guys that are in this video

this level up or level with me
and they just destroy their

their entire argument.
And there's even a couple of

them will issue challenges and
they've put money, real money,

like $10,000 in escrow with
challenges to like, here's

here's what you can do to prove
Flat Earth.

If you can prove Flat Earth, the
money is yours and no one has

ever claimed this money, but
they do the same thing.

These flat Earthers will do the
same thing.

They'll be like, oh, we'll put
up $10,000 if you can prove the

earth is round.
And then like 20 people will be

like, well, here's proof and
like, oh, that's all CGI.

But this, the disturbing thing
about this video is the very

first thing they start with is
the Challenger disaster back in

86.
All right?

And that's the the space shuttle
that that launched in like 70

some odd seconds into the
liftoff, it exploded, killing

everyone on board.
They're trying to claim that the

astronauts didn't die, they
weren't even on the shuttle and

that they were given, well, not
even false identities.

Like, they found people who have
the same or similar names and

might even look a little bit
similar.

And they're like, the one guy's
like a retired teacher and they

go to his house and they're
like, are you, you're, you're

Scobie, right?
You're the you're the astronaut

from the Challenger.
And he's like, no, he goes, look

it's I, I admit like we have
like his, The astronaut's middle

name was Richard.
This guy's first name is

Richard.
So they're like, oh, he's the

same guy.
But this guy's like, like, no,

like I'm not.
It's, yeah, I, I, I admit it's I

look, we look vaguely similar.
He's like, but that's not me,

I'm, I'm a teacher.
I'm a right.

And then they go after this
McAuliffe, who's a teacher like

a university professor, and she
just ignores him and walks away

and they're like, look, that's
proof that that they're they're

hiding something.
I'm like or.

It's proof that they're tired of
dealing with idiots like you.

Like they don't want and.
Here's the thing, like all those

people that died it was tragic
and and you need to pay them

respect.
I mean they gave their lives and

and to say that, Oh no, it's all
fake and they're now they're not

living other lives, that's a
pretty bold statement and and it

like it does.
And and some of the some of what

they cause I've seen, I've heard
them talk about this and they

have things like Oh well this
guy had a company and look at

his logo.
Yeah.

And it it it's just it it's how
far do you want to reach?

Well, and then it doesn't make
sense, 'cause it's like it was

like the company was called Cows
and trees and it had a cow on a

rocket and it like flew across
the screen and it did like a

loop de loop and it went away.
And you're like, it looks just

like the explosion on the
Challenger and they overlay it

over the explosion.
It looks nothing like it.

It looks nothing like it, but
you're like, look, that's proof.

But it's so they they say the
reason for this is that the

government was trying to do away
with manned Space Flight.

So they create this disaster
that traumatizes the nation and

then they can move away from
manned Space Flight.

But it didn't.
We didn't.

We we didn't move away from
manned Space Flight.

We're we got the people are just
still there.

Right.
People are just looking right

now.
They'll just grasp at straws

like they if they wanna see
something, they'll find it.

It doesn't matter at all.
You you know what?

What if it has any basis in
reality?

When I was in high school, like
right around high school, right

around college, like right there
in in my town, there must have

been some kid that looked just
like me.

And we had to be like, the
similar age because I would bump

into people and they'll be like,
hey, whatever his name was.

And I'm like, no, it's not me.
Well, they used to go up to.

Me for a couple of years, you
know and like.

People just read into it like
today.

Back then it'd be like, oh, I'm
sorry, yeah, well, do you

remember there was there was
somebody who is his name was

Buddy Jackson.
I know what his name was and

apparently we looked at denticle
and people be like, hey, buddy.

And I'm like, no, not Buddy.
I forgot about that.

Yeah.
And it happened so many times.

I'm like, I don't know who this
dude is, but we look identical.

So there's a buddy Jackson out
there.

Hi, apparently we look like.
Well, well, that's the thing.

Like back then.
It like in in today's weird

world where people see every,
like see something and

everything like it.
It's just bizarre how you could

go to see a commercial and
believe, oh, like they're hiding

it in plain sight.
Well, it's like, no, it's just a

commercial.
It's just a commercial.

The the other the other
astronauts that they tried to

claim were the same one.
They couldn't find anybody who

matched.
So it's like, oh, he must have

died.
But then the other guy, they had

a twin brother and they're like,
no, it's not really his twin,

it's him and the other guy's
brother because they had the

same vocal mannerisms.
They claim it's the same guy.

They're both I think they're
Japanese and English wasn't

their first language.
So as will happen, and I do it,

I know a lot of people do it
when you're talking and you, you

throw in the right.
So these guys were talking,

trying to articulate what
they're saying and they're

putting these pauses and these
obs and they're like, oh, look,

they do the same thing.
It must be the same person.

It's like, no, hey, they're
related, so they're gonna talk

similar.
And if if English isn't your

first language and you're trying
to get your point across,

there's gonna be times where
your your your brain is catching

up to what your your your native
language is saying and you're

trying to translate it.
My, my brother and I, we're not.

And we're not twins.
We're years apart.

But at one time, probably not
now, but at one time we sounded

that when we were young, we
sounded more similar to a point

where like, I would call my
parents, I'd call my mom and she

would be thinking it was me, or
vice versa.

You know what I mean?
I don't know if you can hear

that.
No.

Her right ears whistling so loud
right now.

No, I can't hear it.
Hang on, let me.

So I apologize if you could hear
that on the podcast.

No, no, I can't hear it all.
So it's good.

OK, Yeah.
So I mean, that was the first

thing that they they went into.
And it was just so like they're

harassing these poor people and
it's like, what are you doing?

What?
Hey, first of all, what does

that have to do with Flat Earth?
So they they lead that into

rocket launches and how rocket
launches don't actually happen.

And the reason why they they
launch from the coast is because

all the Rockets do is they go
up, they arc and then they land

in the ocean because you can see
them arc.

Now I lived in Florida for 6 1/2
years.

I got the Witness, the last nine
or ten shuttle launches and

several other rocket launches
living 1/2 a block from the

ocean.
So I could just get you'll walk

out of my house, walk over and
watch the launch.

I can tell you that they don't
land in the ocean.

They they take off and they
orbit because they're they're

going to certain speed.
You know how long they're going

to take, right?
Not only that, but when there is

some that would we're like right
at sunset.

So it would be maybe just after
sunset, so it would be dark on

the beach and as the shuttle
would take off, it'd get to a

certain height and all of a
sudden it would get really

bright because it's above the
horizon line and the sun would.

Hit it maybe because the Earth
is curved.

And then it would, especially on
those launches, I would stay on

the beach and you could wait
about an hour and a half or so

and then you'd see the you'd see
it come over again because it

has gone around and you're like,
well that's just their their

explanation.
I love this.

Your explanation for the
International Space Station is

it's underwater because they
train underwater, which they do.

Naturally.
Naturally.

Yeah.
They they have a.

Well, naturally the space
station is then underwater and

and it's not training, they're
actually there, they're

actually, that's what they're
saying, just that they CGI the

water out.
But they they're always calling

it a replica.
They're like they've got a a

space state, a replica, the ISS
underwater, Well, if it's if

it's fake and it's underwater,
that's not a replica.

That would be the actual space
station.

Right.
So they're training to go to the

real one, but no, they're
claiming that the real one

doesn't exist, but they're
always calling the one that they

they use as their their fake
space station as the replica.

It's like, oh, they got a
replica underwater.

But if, if that's the one you're
claiming, that is the space

station, it's not a replica, but
so some people have thrown out

to them, well then why can I
with high power binoculars or

telescope, when the space
station flies over, they can see

it or people can get pictures of
it like you can see the

structure of the space station.
So their explanation for this

and apparently have some
government informant that told

them that this is true, they've
got, I think they said B50 twos,

I think they got like five or
six of them that have.

Like duct tape, tape to hand
them tape, talk to them and they

show it like a a computer
generated, like what it would

look like.
And it's like a space station

attached to the bottom of a
plane.

The plane wouldn't be able to
fly with that.

It would never get off the
ground.

It's like Oh my, like what?
Whatever they can do, like if if

that was the case, then you
should be able to.

If you can see the structure of
the space station, you should be

able to see the plane that's
carrying it, you know.

And and and that like should be
pretty easy.

I don't wanna make I I really
don't wanna make fun of people,

right.
But but sometimes people there's

there's a thing called analysis
paralysis where you think about

something too long and then you
just keep thinking about it and

you never come to a resolution.
It it's like.

You know, oh, they're watching
something take off and it and it

arcs.
It's like, well you know you

need to have a certain amount of
inertia to keep it going and

you're looking to get to a
certain spot, so you're not

gonna go straight up and then
make like a 90° turn to get to

where you wanna go exactly.
And then that is the actual

reason why they 'cause they
actually curve against the

rotation of the Earth or with
the rotation of the Earth.

So when it what you need a
certain amount of fuel to launch

into space, but you also need a
certain speed to maintain orbit.

So like you said, if you just
launched straight up, you would

you can't turn once you're up
there, so you would come up and

you'd come straight back down.
So they go up through the

thickest level layers of the
atmosphere, which are the lowest

layers of the atmosphere and as
they clear those and they can

turn, they can get more forward
velocity, get the speed they

need and then continue to climb.
Now like I I think it's is it

Virgin Galactic or it's not
SpaceX, it's Virgin or one of

the other ones has the the the
they call it like Mothership one

I think and it's this giant
plane And then this spaceship

spaceship is this little tiny
like like a old like 50s like

experimental jet looking thing
that they they attach underneath

it and they they take this big
plane up and they get it so high

where it's out of that those
thicker layers of the atmosphere

and then they drop the little
one out and then it launches

that way.
It's the same concept, it's just

not using, you know, the the
rocket to launch the whole

thing.
The funniest part, though, is

the you've probably seen video
of it.

I've seen it in person from
watching launches.

But as you get higher in the
atmosphere, there's less

atmosphere, It's colder, you've
got hot rocket exhaust coming

out, it crystallizes it, it
freezes, and then it starts to

dissipate and it dissipates
oddly compared to what we would

think, because it's at a higher
altitude.

And then you're catching light
from the the rocket itself and

from the sun or whatever you're
seeing, and it gets this really

weird looking, like sometimes
almost looks like a spiral,

sometimes it looks like it's
undulating.

They're claiming that that is
because the rocket has gone up

and hit the firmament and the
firmament is like hard water.

What it Whatever the hell that's
supposed to be.

And then it just skims along it
until it's out of view and it

crashes into the ocean.
The the idea of a Flat Earth in

the firmament and and nothing
against people who are religious

and they believe the Bible, but
you, you have to have that

religious belief, in my opinion,
if you're going to believe in

the idea of this Flat Earth with
the firmament.

Because otherwise if you don't
have that religious belief, then

who Who built the earth?
You know if if if you're not

gonna believe in in a natural
forming celestial body and you

think that this is artificially
created, then you know what

what's what's what's what's the
angle like what do you like

what?
What?

You know what I mean?
Like it's a very It's a very

odd.
Anything to think about it.

I mean, I I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.

But if you believe in the Bible
and you believe in God, you

believe everything that's in the
Bible.

I could get it.
You have faith.

That's one thing.
But if you're not, you're just

Joe Schmo, who doesn't have a
religious belief.

But they believe the earth was
created by somebody and it's

flat and there's nothing
underneath it and it goes out

forever and there's ice balls.
Well, who built all that?

Like, what do you what's what?
What's the like?

What's the what is it then?
Like you know what I mean?

Like what else is there?
Nothing, apparently.

Well, there is, but not anything
that we can get to because we're

being, we're being held back by
the government.

My question is why would there
be a firmament A&B, what holds

it in place?
And and C and most importantly,

there there are Vatican
scientists right now.

I'm not Catholic.
I'm not a big fan of religion as

an organization, but they do
have their own scientists and

and they don't say anything
about a firmament.

They a lot of what they talk
about is that, yeah, what we

know is space and the earth is
round.

And I think one of the quotes
they actually said years ago was

believing in God and believing
in in space in other possible

civilizations don't conflict
with each other.

Because as far as they, they
know we've looked everywhere we

can see for for a a creator.
And the creator must be outside

our universe which mean outside
of space.

All right.
And I'm.

I'm OK with that.
Right.

That's that's easier to believe
than you know a firmament over

the planet or over the Flat
Earth.

And it's to me, it just it
really the people.

And again I don't want to
disparage anybody, but if you're

if you're looking at it from
this point of view that we're

we're safe from all this space
stuff that could happen to us

because of this firmament and
we're under this Dome.

It's a very easy way to not have
to think about some of the very

bad things that could happen to
us without us ever even knowing

they happened.
It's a safe place to be.

It's it's the it's the
conspiracy theory equivalent of

a Serenity room.
I'm under this.

I'm protected by this, this more
powerful being, and I'm safe.

So everything is OK and
everything's not OK.

I hate to tell you, but
everything's not OK there.

I mean, we've had so many close
calls with asteroids and space

rocks.
Something just hit Jupiter like

last week.
I I saw an article about it and

they had no idea.
What was?

Yeah, like, but they hadn't.
Like, they usually know when

these things are coming, they
just happened to catch it on one

of the the telescopes and
they're like, whoa, where did

that come from?
Let's see and and again I'm I'm

being overly logical and I
don't, I don't want to offend

people but the way I see things
let's just say higher being,

whatever higher being you
believe in created the world.

Why would they create a flat
world if they created all these

other planets and moons that are
around?

Why wouldn't they just do the
same thing here and then on on

the other side and the other
side of it?

If if you're talking about
somebody who doesn't believe in

a higher power, but they believe
it was created by aliens or

something.
Again, if you have the

technology to create a Flat
Earth that floats in space with

a big bubble over it, why
wouldn't they just create or go

to a planet and create it on the
planet?

So to me it's just the whole,
the whole idea of it just as

confusing.
It's like why wouldn't?

And again, I'm thinking if I'm
going to build it, you know, if

you're on like, you know
Spaceship Zippy 5 and you're and

somebody's telling you you have
a job and they're like you have

to build this thing, wouldn't
you do it?

The like, why would you make it
complicated?

Why wouldn't you just do it?
Like the the way that's already

out there.
First of all, everybody knows

that Zippy 6 was the superior
planet building ship.

Yeah, Zippy 6.
No, this sausage section got too

big.
They went out of control.

Zippy 5 was the classic model,
so they mentioned this in this

video because they're they they.
One of the reasons they claim

that people are so against Flat
Earth is because we're we're

they're taking away all of our
space stuff and all of our alien

stuff by doing away with outer
space.

But that there are aliens, but
they're not extraterrestrial.

They are extraterrestrial, but.
This is my favorite

extraterrestrial.
Doesn't mean outside of Earth.

It means extra land and the
outside of the ice wall.

There's hundreds and maybe
thousands of other continents in

civilizations, and that's who's
visiting us.

Right, I I saw a it again.
It popped up on my my in the

algorithm, but there was a it
almost looked like Atlantis and

they're like this is our Earth
and it's surrounded by an earth.

Or like this is the the our our
map and it's surrounded by.

And ice wall, but outside of
that there's more water and more

land and that's surrounded by an
earth or an ice wall and then

outside of that there's more
water and there's more land and

that's surrounded.
So it's like multi layered like

masses of water and continents.
It was fascinating.

Does does every little atoll of
worlds have its own sun and

moon?
Is that how that works?

Maybe.
Maybe the Star Wars.

I didn't.
I couldn't.

I couldn't watch it because
it's.

I honestly couldn't watch it.
You you couldn't possibly have

light outside of there.
I was, I was, I was going down

the rabbit hole like it, I it it
caught me.

And I'm like, hey, it looks like
Atlantis.

And I stopped.
And then they started talking

about how the extraterrestrials
were the elites.

And there is this over and
again, like, you're talking

about weird, easy conspiracy
theories that are just crossing

over left and right.
And they're like, oh, well, you

know, these are people,
everybody who has power, the

whole world is controlled.
And those people who are in

power, they don't actually live
here.

You know, they're they're in the
they're in, they're in the next

ice wall over.
And they just show up and and

for whatever reason.
But if they got.

Their own stopped.
They couldn't do it.

If they got their own little
playpen over there, why would

they care what we're doing over
here?

I don't know.
That's a long way to go just to

make some money, don't you
think?

Well, I would think so and and
with I mean on this, on this

section of the map we have, we
have technology and I don't know

where they think the satellites
are, but couldn't you just do

that from your house and?
And you know Ice Wall #2 well.

And and like satellites are on
balloons.

I didn't know that that's what
now there there are NASA and

some other companies do use high
level balloons for some things

because it's cheaper than
sending up a satellite.

If you're doing, you're not
doing space related things, but

you're not gonna do like a
telecommunications platform on

on the thing, right.
So they're like, oh, all

satellites are on balloons now
that's what they're they

believed they're all on
balloons.

They were supposedly outside of
a launch site.

I don't know if it really was,
but it seems strange that as

they're talking like this, this
big, like diesel truck pulls up

out of the out of the gate,
like, Revs the engine and like,

oh, look, they're not going to
let us talk.

And that guy leaves And then you
start talking again and this

other guy comes up and goes, oh,
here's another truck.

And then he happens to pull over
and come over and start talking

to him.
And you're like, oh, we're just

interested in the sad, in the
the sad loons you're sending up.

And the guy is like, Oh yeah,
yeah, just sent everything.

Like, yeah, it's crazy.
Some people think they go up in

rockets.
And this guy's like, oh, I've

never heard of such a crazy
thing.

And it's like, oh, so this guy's
not a plant?

Really.
Well, and and again, here's my

here, here's and and again this
is not, this is not just this,

this is everything.
But let's just say somebody

wanted to hide something and you
showed up with a camera and a

microphone.
Do you think you're going to

talk him into telling you
anything you know and especially

if if there's some Mig mega
secret that's been going on for?

Decades or hundreds of years or
thousands of years or however

long they think this is going on
and they think they're just

gonna show up one day with like
a GoPro and a bag of Funyuns as

sitting in a car and they're
going, they're gonna be able to

crack the case.
Well, no, You know, Funyuns and

a root beer.
I'm sure that's a good crack in

the case with like snacks, but
but it's just with anything,

like with anything, it's, it's,
it's.

When has that tactic ever worked
in the history of our, our

civilization?
Like has that ever happened

where you'd show up and and
you'd knock on somebody doors

with you and you're like, hey, I
think this is it, tell me the

truth.
And they like, oh, you you you

got it.
You cracked the code.

Well, the the only time things
like that happen is when it's

people who actually work who who
are tired of dealing with people

like that showing up and like
making all these claims.

So they just play along and tell
them whatever they want to hear.

Because if that was me, like
back back when I did cable, if

if somebody had like some some
cable related conspiracy and I

was pulling out of the cable
plant and they're like, oh, we

heard the cables, 5D energy that
squeeze through a crystal.

And the thing I'll pick, who
told you does she want to see

pictures?
No, I I definitely play along

because what else are you going
to do if you're just sitting

there watching like hot air test
balloons launch all day, you

know you're going to be like,
this is boring.

Oh here's some some nutters out
here think they're flat.

Let's go mess with them, see if
we can get them to believe.

It and get on your walk and be
like, hey, Bobby, there's some

there's some guys out here.
Put on the costume.

Go, go, go run through the
bushes.

Yeah, tell tell me right, it,
it.

Then they start dropping these
hints.

Well, and and you kind of hit on
it there with the elites.

All right, then they.
Turn into that, Yeah, yeah, they

they, they started tying it into
this project Blue Beam, have you

ever heard of this?
Briefly, but I don't know enough

about it.
Well, I I'd heard the term, but

I had no idea what it was.
So after I heard them talk about

it, I'm like, well, let me go
find out what it really was

because you know, this is
probably wrong.

So they say that the Project
Blue beam is basically a large

scale, high definition mass
regional holographic projection

technology.
And what they're going to do so

that they can create a one world
order, one world government new

world order is they're going to
in 2024 yet.

So we've only got 13 months to
find out if this is true because

by in 13 months it'll be 2025
and well we we should be all

under the new regime by that
point.

They're going to project these
alien spacecraft into the skies

above Earth to fake an alien
invasion.

But the the holograms will be
disguising our own ships, our

own aircraft, and we're going to
bomb our own cities and blame

the aliens so that the new One
World government can step in and

save the day.
Wow, that's a lot of work.

That's that's that is a lot of
work, 'cause you're gonna

destroy a lot of stuff that you
got to rebuild yourself.

So, so I guess my question is
you can't just have one, right?

I'm not.
This is this isn't tied to Flat

Earth, right?
So, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

No 'cause there's no such thing
as aliens because there's no

outer space.
They're they're not from upper

space.
The aliens at business are from

outer worlds outer outer space
that is outer space.

But we're our government is
going to use this hologram

technology to well the all the
governments of of our let's see

it gets confusing because
they're saying there's other

lands out there but our
government, our little playpen

of government all of them are
gonna get together to control

all of us by with a new world
so.

Where do they mount these
things?

That would have to be an awful
lot of What do we call them?

Projectors.
Well, they'll probably just tape

them to the bottom of the P52I
imagine.

'Cause there's no there's unless
they put them on the balloons or

they could use.
Maybe they do that.

They could do that on the
balloons, they could do that on

maybe.
They'll get a balloon and

they'll hang it from the balloon
and shine it back up on the

balloon.
There you go.

I saw a little bit like the
ghost from Brady Bunch on the

sheet in the yard.
Remember that?

Remember that?
But it sounds like a Brady Bunch

episode, no?
So that.

So that's a lot of work.
So then I guess we'll have to

want everybody to come in and
save us from the balloon aliens

or or whatever they are so that.
OK.

But no they're not.
Yeah, I didn't really catch

that.
Technology doesn't need to be

projected on anything.
It can just be.

It could just exist.
It just appears in the air

because it's hologram.
You know how holograms work.

You you don't.
You don't.

They don't need to.
I don't have the basic idea.

It doesn't need to project it on
anything exist.

It can just exist in in the air.
All right, they're magic

holograms.
You know, just like on Star

Trek.
That would be if this would if.

If.
If they said it was magic, I

might believe it more.
It's like, Oh well, they found

Merlin's staff and they've been
trying to figure out how to get

it to work.
So, OK, so we have about 12

months.
Yeah, let's, let's.

For this to happen, we get less
than 13 months before we are

fake invaded.
Play Invasion.

I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
trademark that.

Play Invasion.
That's what they're gonna call

it.
So I guess this is OK.

So I I have questions for these
people, for these guys.

So if there's multiple, if
there's multiple.

Sections of the earth with ice
walls.

But some could get over here and
go back.

Yes, do.
They have the same technology as

us.
And why don't other people do

it?
I don't know.

I I this is a hard one to
believe.

What the whole So here here is a
very interesting question that

you pose on that because if
there are other, well, I'm.

I call them playpens.
If there's other playpens out

there, right.
Some of them are gonna play

along well with each other and
and some of them aren't and some

of them are gonna be like no you
shouldn't be hiding this truth

from people.
Don't you think they they would

show up like fly, you know, come
over to our playpen and be like,

look, this is technology we
have.

You guys are being subjugated.
If you want to come with us, you

can live live in our playpen.
We got plenty of room.

Yeah, I think something if
they're human and we're human,

they would think like us that
that would happen.

Well, even if they're not human,
if they're if they're from the

the big, the big flat existence
of the plane of Earth, they're.

And you know, would you would
think that they would there's

going to be some good ones and
there's going to be some bad

ones.
So hey, where's that put us?

And B someone should have come
to us by now if there's this.

Well, I'm just, I'm just waiting
on like somebody's gonna have a

a disclosure kind of video where
they're gonna have like they're

gonna go to likeancestry.com for
genetics test and all of a

sudden they're gonna have a
little thing that goes outside

of our map.
And they're like, well, where

does that go?
What Halo, what did Halo Mexican

is that from?
It's it's the the Mexicans.

Yeah.
They're from another Playtex.

All right.
So that makes sense.

Now I yeah.
I I feel like I'm being I'm not

being like really hard on these
people.

But I I'm, I'm being dismissed.
I apologize.

I don't.
Yeah.

I I don't.
I don't.

Mean to hurt anybody 's I I
don't I I don't mean anything.

It's if you wanna entertain the
idea of Flat Earth, that's fine,

but this video does an extremely
good job of making this

particular group of people look
very sane.

But I I recommend that anybody
who who goes and watches this

level with me, get the names of
the people that they're talking

to and then go watch their
YouTube channels.

Because there's more than a few
of them that are absolute

assholes.
Where if anyone, and it's not

even like if you, it's one thing
to have somebody disagree with

you.
Or like, like I I don't agree

with Flat Earth and I think it's
absolutely insane.

And I will.
I don't mind chuckling about it,

but I'm I'm not going to get mad
at somebody if they come to me

and tell me the earth is flat.
If they tell me that they don't

believe the earth is a globe,
I'm going to be OK with.

It's whatever for you.
It it has no bearing on me.

But there's a few of these guys
who as soon as you say anything

against their narrative and it
is a narrative they turn into

belligerent swearing, slur
throwing morons.

And they.
I've seen interviews with them

on on podcasts and on YouTube
channels where soon as they get

even slightly challenged, they
just try to make it.

The audio is so unusable.
It's funny how people do that.

Like where you can't even.
Yeah, it's a weird, that's a

weird human tactic where like
you're gonna you'll you'll get

loud and aggressive and you'll
talk over somebody and you won't

let them finish their thought.
Or as soon as somebody starts to

talk, you'll change the subject.
What about this?

And how about that?
But it's not even that.

I'm not even that that's bad
enough.

I'm talking about let's say
let's say I was one of these

guys.
The one guy's like a a quotes

spiritual leader and he's got
all I've seen people disagree

with him and he will go straight
to your your effing lazy C you

you're you don't you know and
just and he'll keep at it and

he'll just keep on throwing that
one phrase every time you try to

say something he'll just say it
and you'll say it and he'll say

it and he'll say it and he'll
say it.

That is that is the mark of a
small minded scared little child

who is afraid to admit that they
are trying to get you for money

So they all have some kind of
like book that they're selling

or something like that that
you're hurting their profits.

They are con men and you can
tell simply by the way they you

choose to use their words.
And a lot of times what they'll

do is they'll find there's this
guy I saw on on TikTok.

So I've been messing around with
TikTok with primitive

intelligence.
I've been putting up snippets,

just trying to just as like a
social experiment to see, you

know, what, you know, extend the
reach of the show and all that.

But of course, now I get, you
know, because a lot of things

I'm putting up because it's
TikTok that you can't put up a

lot of serious stuff because it
it gets no traction.

So I'm putting up the stuff like
the aliens, and so I'm getting

all that kind of stuff back
from, which is fine because I I

love those kinds of stories.
But there's this guy and I don't

remember who he is.
I'm not trying to not mention, I

just don't remember because the
things come up so quickly.

But he's talking about how, and
you can clearly tell he's flat,

Earth oriented.
He's leaning that way.

And he's talking about how ether
is the fifth Element.

So you got earth, water, air,
fire, Ether, right?

I missed one or this one.
Yeah, so.

But it goes this whole thing.
He's trying to get you to

download APDF because at the end
of the videos he's like download

my my free PDF For more
information.

That PDF is probably chock full
of ransomware and malware and

all kinds of crap.
And he's trying to enrage people

to go download this PDF because
it's so full of shit that

they're going to download it so
you can pick it apart and then

you put it on their computer or
their phone and they get malware

or ransomware or it starts
mining crypto.

And he's just looking for a way
to make money trying to get over

on you.
But he uses things like he's

talking about ether, and he says
that ether is the only element.

That symbol is a circle and uses
the my favorite.

I told you about this.
This is one of the things that

got me thrown out of Sunday
school when I was a kid, that

the element, the symbol of a
circle, it's it represents ether

because a circle has no
beginning and no end, right.

And if you're watching a video,
here's a circle.

There's no beginning and no end,
right.

Well, this happened to me in
Sunday school when I was a kid

and the the Sunday school
teacher was talking about God

has no beginning and no end.
Use his wedding ring as an as an

example.
Held up like this.

And I took it and I turned it
sideways.

I said yeah, but it's got edges
because it's basically, but it's

all matters.
Perspective, yeah, it's circles

got no beginning and no end
until you look at it from a

different point of view and then
it's got sides.

So then he he goes on to say
that that's why the human skull

is a circle.
And it's another one of these

things where they overlay
something but it doesn't match.

So it shows like a side view of
the human skull and it's like

the human skull is a circle.
Look at it.

No, it's actually skull shaped.
It's not a circle.

And if you're trying to use that
as the epitome of no beginning

and no end, all you got to do is
open the jaw and there's a gap

in the circle.
Got to be getting in an end, so

there goes your whole ether
circle thing.

Then he says that ether is in
the word together because ether

encompasses everything, and that
the the first Mexican hearing

that guy was talking about like
the origin of a word, remember?

And it was completely bogus.
Yeah, I remember that.

I remember the word because
somebody said it.

People like, oh, that's the
thing, that ether is

coincidentally in the word
together.

But the word together isn't
actually the word together.

It wasn't originally spelled
that way.

The word together comes from Old
Middle English, and like ancient

Germanic, it's like a
combination word.

Like a a combo word of two and
Gator, which meant to gather, to

joint join in a group, to
gather.

And over time, as language
evolves and people's dialects

evolved to gather, became
together.

That's how the word came to be.
It has nothing to do with the

word ether, nothing at all to do
with the word either.

I, I, I I don't know because
there's so much information that

it's I'm getting lost and in in
the in the in the weeds on I'm

crazy here or or.
Or confusion, Maybe I shouldn't

say.
Yeah, crazy because it that's

the point to keep you confused
so you don't look too deep.

You hear something that sounds
like it makes sense, you go, oh,

that makes sense and you just
follow.

It's a it's a a form of light
hypnotism.

That makes sense.
One of my observations, I would

point out and I've been working
since I was a child and I've

been in corporate America for
like 30 years or more, how long

it's been and I would say that.
From just noticing people's

behavior, there are
characteristics of certain

people who need to present
themselves, and I don't want to

use the word leader, but
knowledgeable or or something to

that effect.
And they will always come up

with a question or something to
point out or feedback.

And now this is.
Decades, I've been seeing this

go on.
And what they will do is they'll

find somebody and it could be
anybody, and they'll make a

suggestion or they'll point
something out.

But they do it in a way that
they appear like they're trying

to help.
But the person they're talking

to, they always put them on the
defensive.

So they say, oh, well, what
about this?

I don't know.
I don't like.

However, they say it if they
don't come off as aggressive,

even though it's a completely
aggressive behavior.

They they, they present
themselves as wanting to help.

But the person on the other side
can't say anything without being

defensive and being on the
defensive and trying to defend

either something they've done or
whatever they're doing.

And it's a similar a similar
like human behavior because then

if you're on the opposite side
there you're you're you're

having to defend something like,
you know this is a pencil.

And and it's like, well, it's
clearly it's a pencil.

But if you were to say something
then I sound like I'm trying to

convince you it's a pencil.
So there's a weird human

behaviorism that that that has
evolved where people can say

certain things and then you look
like the one who might not know

what they're talking about.
And it's a similar, it's a

similar thing where.
People want us, you know, people

come off like they know
something or they're helping.

It's right in your face, go look
for it.

But if you say it's not right in
my face and then all of a sudden

you're the one who looks like
you're a non believer, if you

will, something like that, you
know what I'm saying?

Perfect example.
I've heard this in in multiple

places, and you've probably
heard this and you out there

listening, have probably heard
this.

If you've worked somewhere
that's got any kind of corporate

structure and you've worked
there for any amount of time

where changes have happened
above you, where they come in

and they say we got to make this
change because things aren't

working and we keep on doing the
same thing.

It's the definition of crazy,
doing the same thing over and

over again expecting a different
result.

And then they'll say something
like, you know, this, this term

was coined by Benjamin Franklin
or Abraham Lincoln, Lee Iacocca,

Einstein, something like that.
And they'll say it and they'll

go ahead, look it up.
It's in the dictionary.

Now, I've heard this.
The second time I heard it, I

was like, first of all, like,
I'm sitting at, it was like in

the in the cafeteria of this
place I worked.

And everybody's just sitting
there kind of nodding like, oh,

that makes sense.
And in my head, like, since this

is the second time I had heard
it, because when you initially

hear it, you kind of get taken
aback, like, Oh my God, damn,

that would be crazy.
And I'm sitting and I go now if

I can draw my experience of
anything.

As a child, my mother used to go
to the local library on

Thursdays every Thursday and
volunteer her evenings to work

the library.
So there was times where I would

go to the library with her and I
would spend hours on Thursday

nights at the library.
So reading books and listening

to audio recordings of bird
calls and looking at maps and

just whatever, just walking
around.

And that's where I get most of
my trivial knowledge that I I

know about dumb things I
shouldn't know about.

But the one thing they had in
that library was this massive

dictionary.
It was when it was open, it was

probably 4 feet wide by about 2
1/2 feet tall.

It was thousands of pages with
like gilded edges and like the

thumb, like cutouts for like the
different.

I looked through that thing
constantly, would look through

it, and you know what was never
in that print edition of a

dictionary?
The derivative of a word.

It was always the root of the
word.

You wouldn't have the word
insanity in the dictionary, You

would have insane, but you would
never have a definition for the

word insanity.
And the reason for that is ink

was expensive.
You didn't wanna have a a

dictionary that was 1,000,000
pages, right?

So you either had to have really
small type or you had to have a

lot of pages so they didn't do
derivatives.

You would have insane.
You'd have the definition from

it, and then you'd have a couple
examples.

And then the other words that
are derivatives of it that you

would by association understand
what they meant.

Insanely insanity, right?
You wouldn't have insanity as a

dictionary.
So that's the first thing that

popped in my head the second
time I heard it.

And then I thought, second of
all obviously these people have

never lost anyone to mental
illness because that's an

extremely offensive outrageous
thing to say and I've I have in

my life and it it it immediately
kind of pissed me off.

So the end of the the meeting
like I already I looked at a

couple people in the meeting.
I'm like, really nobody's seeing

the the the bullshit that was
just said and everybody's like,

oh wait, we gotta listen to what
they're saying and they're like

changing like our our PTO or
something like that, taking PTO

away because it just wasn't
working.

So the department I worked in,
we did a lot of stuff with

spelling and so we had like 3
different dictionaries sitting

on the desk.
So I walk back to my station, I

go right to table to
dictionaries and I start opening

them up and one lady comes over
and she's like, what are you

doing?
I'm like just curious to see of

insanity is in the dictionary
and she's like, what I'm like.

He said, look it up.
I'm like, I'm just doing what

the manager said.
Go through the first one.

It's not in this one.
Oh, he said Merriam Webster's

right.
Well, here's a Merriam

Webster's.
Well, it's not in this.

There's a second mirror.
Oh, guess what?

It's not in the print
dictionary.

And she's like, and it like,
snapped her out of it for a

second.
She was like, oh, wait, what?

I'm like, look.
And I did.

I told her same thing.
I just told you.

You're never going to find a
derivative in a dictionary.

And I'm like, you know what
though?

You might find it on online,
might find the word online

because there's no pages.
So I open up my phone, I go to

merriamwebsters.com, I find the
word insanity.

It gives a definition and then
below it it says if you're ever

told that insanity, the
definition of insanity is doing

the same thing over and over
again and expecting a different

result that a it's not a it's
it's not the a different

definition.
That wording would never show up

in the dictionary and it was
never coined by any of these

people that are.
And they they name all those

people and it actually goes
through to say the first written

recording of the phrase.
The definition of insanity is

doing the same thing over and
over again expecting a different

result.
Came from two places, Alcoholics

Anonymous and Q Anonym.
No, not Q Anon Q.

What's the other one?
It's a Anon, right?

So that you so a Anon and
Alcoholics Anonymous.

And as I read that, I read that
to her and I looked at her and

said, now, where are corporate
people getting their information

from?
And she was like, Oh my God, I'm

like, I don't trust a word they
say.

But if you say it with enough
authority and you challenge

somebody to look it up, you
throw them off, you get them off

their game.
They're now on the defensive and

they're going to listen to what
you say.

It can be and usually is
complete bullshit.

And that's what these people
with Flat Earth do with all

these these conspiracies where
they're trying to sell you

something on top of it.
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But you you they they're always
they're they're throwing

something that has a little bit
of truth to it or it sounds like

it could have a little bit of
truth to it but adding

completely different twist to
skew it in the direction they

want you to believe.
Like that's a definition or the

oh the other one this guy says
is that we we have we are an

electrical body right.
And the the universe is electric

which I've heard before right
the the electric like

everything's electrical impulse
flat.

Earth likes to use this as the
reason for gravity because

everything is charged in the you
know the polarities and all

that.
But he says that the reason why

the the proof of this is that
when you go to you get charged

in a court of law and then you
they they put you in a he says

battery cell in prison.
And I stopped and I went wrong.

You don't get charged in court,
you get charged by law

enforcement.
You get tried in court.

So nice try, but your analogy is
completely wrong and it's never

called a battery cell when you
go to jail.

No, I've never heard of that
before in my life.

But it's just close enough to
making sense that people go, oh,

I got to download this PDF and
destroy my computer.

Well, you know, and it's
something where if if people

don't like, truly don't know,
something they don't experience,

not in their world, not in their
wheelhouse, and you start

hearing it, you start thinking
to yourself, OK, this is new

knowledge and you're putting it
in your head is new knowledge

and and that's where people's
will sometimes get confused,

'cause if you hear, you know,
through repetition.

You're gonna think, oh, well,
I've heard that before.

That sounds about right.
I've heard it somewhere you know

it.
Politicians are great at doing

it, too.
Now I I politics to me is like

religion.
There's no good answer.

And like the last election there
was no the past few elections

there really hasn't been a good
choice.

But the one thing I always saw
was now again, I don't really

support either side, but was
people who jumped all over

Biden.
Now he's got his issues,

obviously, with how he remembers
or doesn't remember things, but

they, they jumped all over him
because he was at a UAW United

Auto Workers plant and was
confronted by someone who asked

him a question, who didn't like
the answer and told him that,

you know if this is what you're
going to do because you work for

me.
And then Biden turned around and

said I don't work for you.
And he jumped all over him

because like as the president,
you do work for the American

people.
Bunch of things wrong.

I saw people, people that I know
post reposting this online and

I'd never seen the clip.
All I'd seen was the posting.

And I'm like, if he actually
said that, I'm like, I I want to

see because I don't know.
So I went and found the actual

clip from the news and it was
about gun control, where there

this guy's telling Biden that he
said he wants to take their

guns.
And Biden never said that it was

somebody he was at the speech.
And the guy that he was

introducing said that there
should be more stringent gun

laws, but no one ever said they
should.

They should take the guns.
I don't want to get into the

whole thing about that, but the
guy was very aggressive and the

the actual, the people that were
there, like the other union

workers, the people from the
plant and Biden's people were

trying to get him out of the
situation because the guy was

starting to get a little
belligerent.

So they're trying to walk him
through the situation and the

guy gets right up to him, like
right in his face and he goes,

you work for me.
And to his credit, Biden started

to say I don't.
And then he stopped.

So he never actually said it,
but they always dump it over.

They always put the the captions
on that.

I don't work for you.
And I I stopped for a second and

I stopped the video.
And I'm like, when was this?

This is when he was running for
president.

So he was technically retired.
So even if he would have said

it, he wouldn't have been wrong
because as a retired politician,

he didn't work for that guy.
He wasn't president yet, but he

never actually said it.
But yeah, so it's taken

completely out of context and if
it's shown enough, people

believe it, like.
And that Luke, I am your father,

or Scotty be me up, they were
never and that.

Goes for well, when it comes to
politics, everybody, every

party, every politician.
It's used and reused and it's a

weird time we live in and and
when I when I think about.

Being young and the way media
was, you know, you might see

some things here and there that
were skewed, but for the most

part I thought there were more
presenters or shows that were

more fair and it was like, this
is what's going on.

And then they might have a
commentary or an opinion.

You know what I mean?
But it today it just seems like,

like you said, like today it's
just like you take a little clip

and you spin it and you replay
it and you do it over and over

and over.
And in my opinion, and you know

we've had this conversation
offline, I think we've hit a

point in in humanity where we've
got to a point where stimulation

we've started to realize.
Humans need stimulation.

You know, outside.
And when I say stimulation, you,

you know if you're thinking
about being outside, you're

listening to the wind, you're
hearing birds, you're hearing

animals, things like that.
But, but you know, getting

bombarded over and over and
over, your mind doesn't have

time to analyze it or think
about it if like the way people

it, it just think about, I don't
want to say 100 years ago, but

100 years ago when?
People used to write letters to

each other when I don't know who
could write a letter today like

that.
But if you think about how long

they must have sat to think
about what they were going to

say and how they were going to
say it and always keeping in

mind who they're talking to, how
they're going to present it and

stuff like that.
And today you're like throwing

information that like life
changing world event information

in five seconds.
And and then and then on to the

next thing and and in my opinion
it's it's and you know as a, as

a as a people, we need to kind
of keep ourselves on check and

think to ourselves do I really
need to you know absorb all of

this?
Do I really need like what are

you taking in?
What are you thinking about and

and how is it affecting you as a
person?

Because I'm sure some people
can't handle it and some people

can't.
Well, no, some people can't.

And people get paralyzed by it,
literally get paralyzed.

But that's almost the point
because the more stressed you

make people and the more
paralyzed you make them, the the

easier they are to control.
So there's like this whole the

the the level up or Level with
me video, the point of them

saying it's all about new world
order and and control.

Although I think they take the
wrong path to get there.

I think they're pretty close to
the end game.

You know, like I I don't.
That's why I I I don't mind

people taking like their own
thoughts on things.

But when you look at the way
things are going right now, it

really does seem like you are
just bombarded with everything

and anything to keep you
occupied and preoccupied.

And not paying attention to
what's really going on because

it's just like we hear, like we
just had another almost

government shutdown because of
the budget that just happened a

few months ago.
If if they can't get the budget

under control, then they need to
step down because that is their

job.
And if we stop sending money to

other countries, If we stop
funding other people's wars?

And we start putting money into
our people, into our

infrastructure, into our
education factories, factories,

what?
It's so if, if you're listening

to this and you don't know, I I
run a company called Hemlock

Mountain Outdoors.
I make hammocks and outdoor

gear.
And for the last seven years,

I've been trying to find
American manufacturing partners

to work with.
And I cannot get them to so much

as return a call or answer an
e-mail.

But I can go to China, I can go
to Alibaba and go on.

And they've got an entire
network of manufacturers who

will work with anybody.
How do we not have something

like that in the US?
How?

How is that not weird, right?
Because I can it's it feels it

feels really weird that we don't
have a spot you could go to and

I don't I I I mean even if it
was like a a government site and

say hey here are that's what US
made in USA.

Yeah, and look, I'm under no
under no false pretenses here.

I am very well aware that the
the Chinese Communist Party has

their hands in Alibaba and every
industry in China.

Well, but you you would, you
would you would do 100% American

if you could?
If I if I could, if they would

work with American companies,
but they only want the big

contracts, they only if you
don't walk in with $1,000,000

falling out of your pocket, then
they don't want to talk to you.

It's like they never got a
start.

They never started their
business.

They've just handed the business
and they're they're making the

money.
They don't want to work and then

the first thing they do is they
turn and go.

We're not making enough sales.
The company I just worked for

that shut down.
They never sold direct to the

customer.
They had a website Today's age.

Yeah, think.
About this day and age, they

never sold direct to customer
and they wonder why they went

out of business.
Yeah.

Well, there's why?
Well, and and and a lot of times

from my own perspective, you get
in a corporate world, in a

corporate maybe not necessarily
corporate big company, a lot of

people who get jobs who aren't,
who aren't doing the work that

actually supports the real
income.

Like they're not actually doing
the, you know, like they're not

let's say client facing or
customer facing where they're

not producing something or
sending something out.

The people who, you know, they
work, but it's mostly meetings

and you know maybe they're
they're they're doing some sort

of project management and
they're talking about ideas and

how to do things.
They don't always have focus.

They don't always, they're not
close enough and sometimes

they're completely disconnected
and and those people are really

dope.
Don't they're just, they're just

getting a paycheck and they
they're not really thinking

about it.
They're not really trying to

make things better.
It's.

'Cause they're not paid to,
they're paid to justify their

position.
And that's that's a big problem

we have in this country, and
I've been seeing this for a long

time.
There's people who have

positions.
It's like they're like the

Kardashians of the work world.
They they're they're famous just

for being famous.
These people have jobs just

because they have jobs.
They they collect a paycheck

just to just to validate the
fact that they need to collect a

paycheck.
They're not doing anything.

They're literally not doing
anything and every idea they

have.
Is way off base.

Like you said, you're
disconnected from reality.

And our government is the same
way.

You got people who have been in
charge in the government for

decades who don't remember what
it's like to be an actual

citizen.
And when they were a citizen,

you could afford shit.
And you can't do that now

because people are just, they
don't care.

They're making their money,
they've got their power and

they're happy.
They don't give a shit about

you.
They don't give a shit about me.

They don't care.
They don't care if there's jobs.

There's there's there's jobs out
there.

There's jobs listed.
Companies aren't calling people

back.
And then what do they do?

Nobody wants to work.
It's because you're not calling

anybody back.
It's it's we're gonna go on to

these ridiculous these these job
job sites if you will the online

and you you you're looking for a
job, right.

And you put in 'cause we know
people looking for jobs and you

go and you and you register and
you're looking for this this and

this and you're not getting
them.

It's like oh I I need to work
from home.

Here's a job to drive a truck.
Yeah.

Right.
So and so you have what's your?

Education.
Money.

Oh, here's a job where you need
to be.

You need to have 17°.
Yeah, we're looking for a

college graduate with 20 years
experience.

You know, you know and and it's
just, I don't know.

And and on the flip side of
things it's even, it's even on

the other side where it's like,
hey, we need somebody with a lot

of experience but we don't
really want to pay them and

we're going to overwork them,
you know.

So it's it's a weird it's a
weird time we live in.

But I agree with you.
I think, like, I don't want to

say it needs change, but it's
almost like we have to take it

in our own hands.
It's like you if you, if you

want a different job, you gotta
figure out a way to go get it.

If you wanna create something,
you gotta figure a way to create

it, you know, and I don't know
how you know.

I don't know how to manufacture,
you know, quilt or or not in

well, I guess quilt material and
hammock material.

But it's like, well, how much
would that cost to get a company

going?
You know, 'cause it's crazy.

Thing is too is you know this
area, There was mills and and

factories.
There's at least like 3 silk

silk mills in the Scranton area
at one point these these massive

buildings with looms and they're
built making textiles.

There was there was a place
right here, like a block and 1/2

from my house when I first moved
here.

I remember I was doing cable in
the building and they had looms

in there.
They were making fabric.

It's gone now.
Like the whole building's gone,

but like that's it's all gone
now.

And all we do is we we either
sit at a computer and do shit

digitally, which doesn't even
exist, or we're we're supporting

service, which we don't even
really do anymore because that

all gets farmed out.
Right.

And if you don't have jobs, how
are you supposed to pay?

And everything's of subscription
now?

It doesn't matter what it is.
It's like it doesn't matter if

it's a if it's a a computer
program.

Oh, it's only 995 a month.
I'm not doing any more

subscriptions.
I'm not doing it.

I'm not paying you every month
for a freaking program.

No one seems to.
Well, I don't know.

I don't know if anyone's
thinking about this company

wise, but it's like, OK, so
we're gonna, we're gonna get

technology, we're gonna get AI,
we're gonna get some robots,

we're gonna do some manufacture,
like we're gonna figure out how

to do things with less people.
But it's the people who buy your

products.
Yes.

And so, like there was a time in
the 30s and 40s and 50s where a

a factory went to a town and
they supported their people

because those are the people
that bought the products.

But now it's gonna be, we're
gonna get to a point where it's

gonna be like, well, we don't
need you to work anymore.

And then you're like, well, I
don't need your product anymore.

Then and then they're going to
cry and they'll be like, well,

you can't you, we're going to go
to business.

You can't do that.
We need help because nobody's

buying well.
It's already happened.

We're selling.
There's There's been three

different companies in
Pennsylvania that have gone

under or or at least put up the
notice to the state that they're

laying off people in like 2
weeks because who can afford

anything anymore, right.
And and like you mentioned like

the factories and I and I'm I I
don't know if this is true but I

remember, I think it was the
Scranton Lace factory big

building.
And I believe they brought that

loom or one of them from
England, like they threw it on a

ship like 100 years ago and
brought it over and and now

today it's it's like and now
like where where do we get

anything?
Like, you know, and it's and I

really think you know we we
almost need a movement to go

back to.
I wanna say bespoke or

artisanal, 'cause it's not
'cause Those are like energy

words, right.
Those are fancy words to to up

to mark stuff up.
But I really think it really, we

really need to go back to a
place where we could support the

community in the ways we can't.
Like, you know, and I think

we're gonna have to.
I think it's only a matter of

time like.
Yeah, I mean, I I really, I I

kind of wish the Earth was flat
and that one of these other

playpens would come in and
straighten stuff out for us.

They're they're they're fake
aliens.

That'd be nice.
Well, maybe you could.

Maybe you could.
If you if you Google long enough

you could you'd find a site for
for playpen #2 and maybe they'll

have some manufacturer.
Oh yeah, maybe they maybe they

snuck onto the and and maybe
there's a cave system that goes

from our playpen to their
playpen and then you could hire

like Bigfoot.
Well, yeah, it's under the the

Denver International Airport.
Well, it's just a seat where

it's all working out now.
The playpen system, our.

Yeah, our you know our our Rip
Stop materials from Playpen #2.

Brought to you by Bigfoot.
Or maybe, maybe that's where

Bigfoot's from.
Maybe that would explain a lot

of stuff like if that if that
was actually true, they figured

out a way to get they got like a
little like turbo lifts.

They can just go in and sucks
them through like a like a bang.

That's, that's what I'm
canister.

That's what I'm thinking.
Yeah.

Yeah, Yes.
This is a little chair, but

nothing's sealed.
And then he, when he goes

through the hair, blows in the
wind.

Oh yeah, I like that.
We can imagine it gets stuck on

like there's like a a crevice in
the rock it's going through and

his hair gets stuck on his
Easter chair is here.

Just screaming on the ground.
See that I was, I was thinking

more like Indiana Jones where it
would be like traveling through

and then at one point it has to
like pop out of like 1 mountain

and fly through there like Evel
Knievel and then go into a cave

in the other mountain like
landing right on the tracks.

OK, I was thinking more like a
like a bank tube, the grill and

close.
He's kind of sitting a little

open.
He's got no doors on it.

You're just kind of sitting
there, like don't stick your

hands out to get ripped off.
He's sitting there on Fridays.

He's got a little pinwheel
because he's happy and the

pinwheel spins.
It melts right off, flies off.

Watch the flyway.
Yeah, that got that.

Sort of gets serious there real
quick, so yeah, yeah.

Break out of that and two, but
yeah, so soapbox there and talk

about things.
Yeah, the the Level with Me

video.
Not impressed with it.

Like I said it, it really made
them out to seem more stable

than they are on their own
channels.

When you watch these guys, they
are all very much.

They have an agenda.
They've got a narrative.

Look, think outside the box by
all means.

But at some point you got to
step back and go, how crazy is

this again?
I love a good story.

I love, I love looking at this
stuff.

I love it.
It doesn't matter how crazy it

is.
I'll look into it just because

it's just it's funny.
You let your your mind kind of

go and it takes you other
places.

But when that place is insane
asylum?

It's time to stop, I think.
Yeah, when you when.

Yeah.
When you start going so far down

the rabbit holes that other
rabbit holes are like, right on

top of you.
Yeah, it's like how many things,

how many, how much can you put
on a plate?

I saw another video that was
Flat Earth related, and the

guy's like, can you tell me
where this land came from?

And he's looking at the Piri
Reis map.

And I'm like, just watch, just
listen to our episode.

I explain it.
I have an answer.

Yeah, I have the answer for you.
Yeah, Yeah.

So, yeah, you never know where
you get.

The other thing I always find
funny with this too, is anytime

anybody shows them any evidence,
like shuttle footage or like

International Space Station or
pictures from satellites, they

go, oh, those images are fake.
They've been CGI.

Here's our proof.
And they show you images.

It's like, what?
How, How, what?

How are yours not fake?
If these are fake, why not

yours?
Fake?

Because a lot of theirs are.
There's that one that showed the

guys like, oh, this, they're
saying this is Mars, But it

turns out it's this, it's a spot
in Iceland.

And it turns out somebody else
is like, no, that's not from

Iceland, that's from Canada.
And then this other guy goes,

no, it's not from Canada.
And because I was looking at the

picture going, man, that place
looks familiar and it's from the

the.
The barons in Ireland, which

I've been to and it's like this
big rock outcropping and the

guy's like, no, this came from
this guy actually did this as a

project and he did it online to
show how to do photo

manipulation.
And his his idea was to take a a

picture or something and turn it
into look like it came from

Mars.
There's an actual video of this

guy making this photo.
As a fake, right?

As a as a you sort of how to do
photo editing.

It's being used as a as real.
It's being used as a real NASA

photo and then someone did like
this really crappy copy and

paste of like the edge of a
Rover because all the Rover

photos have you can see the
Rover in them like because it's

it's they use those wide angle
cameras but it's so crappy

looking.
This guy's like look this is

proof.
And it's one of these guys from

that video from Level with me.
He's like, no, this is proof.

Look, I can show you this right
here.

This is NASA photo.
And the guy he's talking to

goes, well, what's the number
sequence on the photo?

He goes, what are you talking
about?

Because all NASA photos are in a
number sequence.

What's the number sequence on
the photo?

So I can go to their database
and pull it up.

And he's like, I don't have it.
He goes, and it's not a NASA

photo.
Yeah, it's it was it was buried.

They don't want you to know
about it, so.

This guy does his his homework.
He finds the photo that that

part of the reign of the the
Rover comes from.

He found it.
He matched it up.

He figured out what photo it was
from.

He's like, this is the real
photo.

They just copied and pasted it
onto this photo that isn't even

a real photo.
That was a clearly a a being

shown as A to do tutorial as a
tutorial on how to do photo

manipulation.
And they're running with it as

flat or or proof that we've
never been to Mars.

You just go go down a rabbit
hole, down a rabbit hole and I

guess like on a positive note.
But I guess where I would end is

there's a lot of things that you
may never have seen in the

world.
And it's it's not crazy and it's

not like there's there's no
mystery to it.

It's just natural.
It's the earth.

So here in PA we have two
places, I'll say Hickory, run,

State Park.
There's a boulder field and if

you look it up, I'm sure if you
could cut some of the trees out.

It doesn't.
It looks weird, but it's in the

middle of a forest, if you will,
the populated area.

It's not like we're not talking
in the middle of nowhere, but it

looks unusual, perfectly
natural.

And then there is A and I don't.
You might have to tell me what

this this place is.
There are the singing rocks in

Pennsylvania too, where if you
hit them, if you hit these

rocks, and different rocks will
make different noises.

And it's again perfectly
natural.

Now I can't remember where the
singing rocks are.

I think they're at a State Park
or a state forest.

But again, it's a.
County Park.

It's called the ringing rocks,
ringing rocks.

Yeah, hold on.
Oh, well, it's the Ringing Rocks

County Park.
They must have changed the name.

Well, there you go.
Yeah.

It's in Fox County,
Pennsylvania.

OK.
So again and again like to to

end on a positive note, it may
maybe no, none of you have ever

heard of something like that.
And there's, I'm sure there's a

million things I've never heard
of, but you don't necessarily

have to overthink things.
Sometimes what you see is really

what it is.
So I mean, I'd say go out,

explore, open your perception,
but maybe you know, keep

yourself a little founded in in
nature, a little bit and and

less online.
That's always good advice and

you do that after you listen to
the podcast.

Oh yeah, they just got the
advice.

So now they can turn it off?
No.

Well, until next year, you're
not getting this hour back from

your life.
And I think with that we'll

we'll we'll end our little fun
experiment with Flat Earth and

just look believe what you want
to.

Believe.
Sorry if I offended anybody.

No, don't.
Don't be.

Everybody's offended.
You're never going to apologize

for it.
Think outside the box.

Think.
Look at different possibilities.

Absolutely Come up with your own
ideas, but you don't necessarily

have to preach them to everyone
and make them feel like idiots

for not agreeing with you.
Every other people can have

different ideas.
And look, I've never been in

this space, so any knowledge I
have of the earth being round is

just off of what I've been
taught and what I know.

So for all I know, maybe you're
right.

I think you're wrong.
But you might be right.

And if you are right, I'll be
the first one to come out and

say, oh shit, hey, I was wrong.
I think more people need to

start that just to you want to
you want to be better as a

person, you got to be able to
sit there.

The 1st 3 words you should say
is I was wrong because when you

can admit that you were wrong,
other things get a lot easier.

So maybe you're right.
I think you're wrong though.

But I definitely think that the
the people involved that video

are just trying to sell you
something and keep you scared

for some other reason.
That's my personal opinion.

Check it out, see what you think
about it.

Other than that, I've got
nothing else.

If you've got a comment about
this, you can comment wherever

you listen to us or watch this.
Or you can send us an e-mail at

podcast@primitiveintelligence.com.
I am going to go get some food

because I am starving all of a
sudden and I got to go to the

store because I just realized
I've I ate all my food and.

Have fun out there in the snow,
I say.

Long live the Bigfoot bullet
train.

And do you know that's?
That's that's all I got.

I am now going to have to do
research and see if anyone has a

story about the Bigfoot bullet
train because.

That if they if there's not a
story, I'm going to make one No.

Or I want an image of Bigfoot in
a in an Indiana Jones buying

car.
The weather work too with AII

can do that for you.
All right.

All right.
So that's a good deal for this

week.
Thank you everyone for

listening.
I hope you enjoyed it.

If you found it a little bit
offensive, you're not going to

like all of them.
That's your problem, not mine.

Have a good week.
See ya.

See ya.