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ep. 518 - The Inflatable Army of the Illuminati

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ep. 518 - The Inflatable Army of the Illuminati

A mysterious invitation from a secret society, evidence of fake armies deceiving their enemies and a bizarre, high-flying experiment are this weeks topics... what do they all have in common?


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You are listening to the
Primitive Intelligence podcast

episode 518 The Inflatable Army
of the Illuminati.

Well, not entirely army that
inflates of the Illuminati, but

the title sounded good.
This week has been extremely

busy.
I got a lot going on working for

myself and trying to get some
stuff taken care of with that.

And then researching and trying
to come up with stories and

everything.
And I've got a few leads on some

stuff, but nothing came together
quick enough.

And the things that did look
into all turned to garbage.

So it's going to be a fun
episode of a good.

It's going to be an episode that
shows you what happens when

things don't fall into place
when you're researching for a

show.
And that's what we're going to

have.
But keep in mind, this is the

second extended episode.
This is the second episode of

the extension of Season 5, so I
wasn't planning on going this

far into the season.
So I'm doing pretty good

considering it was not prepared
at all.

With all that being said though,
episode 518 of the Primitive

Intelligence Podcast starts now.
said, hectic week research was

not did not go smoothly and I
have a few stories I looked into

that that really kind of went a
different way.

I'm going to go over two of
those I'm going to talk about

because the the other was just
complete garbage.

But something interesting did
happen.

And and this started yesterday
and it's it's very, very

interesting.
I got an an official invitation

to join the Illuminati.
I'm going to read you and I know

this is secret organization,
secret society kind of thing.

But I I think it's OK for me to
read this.

This is the actual invitation
that I received.

Hello.
Greetings from the great

Illuminati Brotherhood.
This message is to invite you to

be part of us and participate in
fame, power, wealth, protection,

and also $1 million as a welcome
gift.

A car of your choice, a House of
your choice in a ring of

protection, and good luck.
That's my invitation.

And now this has to be legit.
There's there's no way this

isn't.
And the reason why I know that

is because this invitation came
to me directly from Tiktok.

How can it not be real?
I I'm not a fan of Tiktok.

I I mentioned this couple
episodes ago.

I've been messing around with
it, putting some stuff up from

Primitive Intelligence in
Hemlock Mountain Outdoors just

as another Ave. to get eyes on
both of those brands, and it's

it's fine for that, but then you
get stuff like this.

This is clearly a scam, and in
my mind, the way I see these

kinds of things is when when
someone approaches me with

something like this, I would
rather they think they've got me

on the hook and take the time
away from them where they're not

possibly finding someone who
could really believe what's

going on here.
So I like to draw these out a

little bit and and maybe this is
just a bot and it's not an

actual person.
I'm not wasting anyone's time

but my own.
But it I haven't lost sleep over

this.
I haven't stopped what I was

doing or anything that.
So these are the way this goes

is very sporadic through when I
have time throughout the last

well over 24 hours now.
So the contact came from someone

who goes by the name of Henry
and his TikTok is apparently the

official TikTok of the
Illuminati, and I'm sure there's

more than one.
So I will be referring to this

person as Henry of the
Illuminati and I'm going to read

to you the the exchange that
Henry and myself have had over

the past day or so.
And yeah, let me know how legit

you think this might actually
be.

So after this initial offer of
initiation into the Illuminati,

the messages that I read from
Henry are are not well written

and I'm going to read them as he
wrote them.

There's some very important
spelling mistakes in here that

will change some things and his
grammar is not great.

And I would, I would think.
I don't.

I don't know.
And I'm sure something like the

Illuminati would have people
from all around the world who

maybe English isn't their first
language.

But if you were trying to
recruit someone who isn't native

English speaker, you might send
one of your native English

speaking people to talk to them,
you know, so communication is as

well.
But like this is me.

So after this initial invitation
into the Illuminati, I replied

and I said this is a very
gracious offer.

Please tell me more, Henry
replies.

The Illuminati is an elite
organization of world leaders,

business authorities and other
influential members of this

planet.
Our collective unites of the

world in an unrestricted, in
private domain, free of

political, religious, in
geographical boundaries to

further the prosperity of the
human species as a whole.

Our operations require anonymity
for the safety of our members.

We strive to create a better
understanding between US and the

people we have been entrusted to
protect.

Understood, I replied.
Understood.

How do I fit in the grand scheme
of things?

I'm a fairly regular and
unimportant person, Henry says.

What's your name and where are
you from?

I said I don't mean to be rude,
but shouldn't you know that

already?
It just seems odd to invite a

stranger into a super secret,
world controlling organization.

And after a few minutes, Henry
replies.

If you want your life to change,
first change your mind.

Success and failure is within
you.

Choosing success or failure is
determined by your mind.

Your mind is everything.
The thoughts you put through

your head make up your reality.
Change your thoughts and your

reality will change, I said.
Agreed, and I already knew that.

Perceiving my own reality
doesn't change the fact that you

invited me to join the
Illuminati without knowing who I

am.
Logic, reason, and honor now

dictate that you explain this
wildly dangerous decision that

could endanger the secrecy of
the Brotherhood Henry comes back

with.
You were selected to join the

organization because we see a
wealthy person in you.

You will be the one helping
people in need.

The homeless will enjoy from
you.

You will feed the poor with the
help of the Illuminati.

We can make your business move
and we can give you any position

you want in your working place
or be creative in anything you

do.
With the help of the Illuminati,

your unreviewed destiny will be
show to the world that you are a

great person.
I came back with you, said

quote.
You were selected to join your

organization because we see a
wealthy person in you.

UN quote Then you must already
know who I am.

Henry says.
Listen, my brother, when I look

at your profile, I can see how
great you will be.

Come through the help of the
great illuminate brotherhood.

That's why I chose to invite
you, so I can teach you how

we'll operate, brother, I said.
Thank.

You So what's the next step?
And he says, I want you to know

the certain things which we
don't require or accept as a

member of the Illuminati
Brotherhood first.

We don't affect sacrifices or
killing, we don't sell out

souls, and we don't affect
anyone religion.

We work sorely of the benefits
and protection of the human

species.
Got it, brother?

I said I'm on board with all of
that, although it does start to

feel like I'm talking to Macho
Man Randy Savage.

Henry says joining comes with
trust.

You need to trust me while I
trust you.

Then you can be what you want to
be.

Yet there are no doubts joining
about it.

This is the real Illuminati, I
assure you.

Now I'm feeling safer already.
I'm.

I've been assured this is really
the Illuminati.

I said sounds fair.
How do we build trust?

And he says believe.
If you keep your faith, you keep

your trust.
You keep the right attitude.

If you are grateful, you will
see Illuminati open up new doors

that we lead to your success for
you, my brother, I said.

OK, consider.
Done.

I'm always grateful for
everything.

Now this goes on like this with
with Henry for a while.

Like I just would randomly pick
up my phone and it was just him

extolling the virtues of the
Illuminati and talking in

circles when I ask them
questions about how to join and

it just keeps on going.
So at this point I'm thinking

maybe it's a bot and it's not an
actual person and then I get the

official Illuminati membership
form with a little eye of horse

after it.
Now keep in mind this is TikTok

messaging, and if you've never
used TikTok messaging, it is

simply only text based.
You can't insert any kind of

images or attached files or
anything like that.

So this is just typed into his
his message, his reply to me,

the Illuminati membership form
and it it asks for the following

information.
Full name, date of birth,

nationality, gender, occupation,
monthly income.

Have you applied?
Before home address, phone

number, ID number, and then a
note at the bottom that says you

are to state your reasons for
joining the Illuminati and what

you want the Illuminati society
to do for you as a member.

Hail the light Now.
I do not know much about the

Illuminati.
I don't know much about secret

societies in general.
Although I will take a wild

guess at this that a they don't
send you an application that

they expect you to fill out.
Because they if they want you to

join, they already know who you
are and they've been watching

you for a while and they don't
need any of this information and

they're not going to give you an
application that asks you to

tell them what you expect them
to do for you.

I am 99.9% sure that is not how
a a group as powerful as

Illuminati reportedly is, but I
don't think this is how they

would handle it.
So I let that sit for about 24

hours.
I just ignore the messages.

I just go about my life.
And then I do notice that he's

sending a little bump messages
to get my attention.

Don't forget to fill us out.
Don't forget to fill us out.

So later on before I start
recording today, I OK time to

time to mess with them a little
bit.

So I send another message and I
say OK, I printed out the

application, it's all filled out
and they already have it in an

envelope with a stamp on it.
I just need the address to send

it to.
He gets back to me pretty

quickly with an e-mail address
that is a Gmail address.

That's right.
I am now picturing the

Brotherhood of the Illuminati
sitting around a computer in

this dark Gothic style room in
some cathedral somewhere or some

monastery or whatever they they
happen to be in and they forgot

their password.
I forgot the Gmail password.

It's probably just
enlightenment.

You can get back in.
It's OK, but I say to him, can I

mail it directly to
headquarters?

I found this address online,
which which I did, and I found

several official quote
Illuminati headquarters,

official websites because I'm
sure that's what they do.

The address is and I'm going to
pronounce this horribly, I

guarantee you.
But Longa Tavari de Malini

170193, Roma, Rome, Italy.
That's what I sent to him.

But I Hey, they're not going to
have their headquarters listed

on the website.
One of the websites actually has

the White House, 1600
Pennsylvania Ave. as their

address.
I wonder how many people think

that's legit.
So I decided, let me look this

up.
So I Google this address and it

shows up in Google as the
Armenian embassy in Rome.

So super legit.
So I I asked him you want me to

send it there and Henry says
send it here and he repeats his

e-mail address.
I said should I also send a copy

to headquarters and I give him
the e-mail address that's on

that website
its.info@illuminatiheadquartersnorquarters.org

So it's it's obviously not
legit.

They spelled headquarters
incorrectly, probably because

they couldn't get the the real
word, so be probably already

owned it.
Should I send it to info

Illuminati headquarters?
Just to be safe and Henry's

reply is that's the Grand Master
E-mail who will lead you on how

to get initiated into the Great
Illuminati Brotherhood.

And I I replied to him.
Really.

The grandmaster has his slash
her e-mail just posted on the

website.
You know what's weird?

The address for the Illuminati
headquarters is the Armenian

embassy in Rome, Italy.
That doesn't seem right now.

That was hours ago.
I'm going to well, while we're

recording, I'm going to look and
see if he has replied.

I'm going to guess not, because
he was ignoring me for a while

after that.
Let's see.

And I Yeah, no, nothing.
He's he's seen the the message

and not replying anymore.
So I think he realizes the jig

is up.
Fun, right?

I wasted this guy's time for a
day.

I doubt I'm really in danger of
infuriating the Illuminati with

this because I'm pretty sure a
the Illuminati doesn't use Gmail

addresses.
They don't send applications to

people through TikTok messaging
in the Illuminati most likely

does not have a TikTok account.
And The funny thing is, I looked

at the guy's account and all of
the services he shows, like

these real quick videos, they're
all Freemason services.

They're that's all they are
because you can see the

Freemason symbol and all of
these.

And that's not the same like
Freemasons exist.

There are Freemasons.
I I know a couple and I know

they they have services and they
do these things, but they're

they're not the Illuminati.
So if you weren't paying

attention and you just saw that
because that's very impressive,

you might actually believe this
guy And someone who doesn't

think that everything is a scam
from TikTok or that you just

really want to believe.
And who what are they getting

suckered into here?
That's it's a it's a really

bizarre situation we're in right
now where people I want to

believe these things so much and
I guess it's always been.

But now with the with the ease
of this kind of thing on the

Internet, I think more people
get suckered into it.

And I, you know you hear locally
especially around this time of

year how there's there's scams
going on.

I was just in the bank today and
I I walked in and I hear someone

in the back office say you you
can't trust your money in this

bank.
And I was like, I kind of

laughed.
And I I looked at the the

workers behind the counter and I
laugh, I go, that's not what you

want to hear when you walk in
and you're like, what's that?

And I tell them I when I heard,
they laughed and go, no, there's

a a e-mail going around like a
scam e-mail going around.

I'm like, you know, that's kind
of what I figured.

But people, they, they believe
this stuff and just because they

see it on the Internet, they
believe it.

So if you see these kinds of
things, then waste their time.

If you've got a little, you've
got a couple extra minutes.

Waste their time.
Make them think they got you.

It's fun.
Sometimes you get the craziest

stories out of them.
Another one I've been getting.

It's not really to you the
Illuminati and I almost forgot

about this.
But on Facebook I've been

getting messages from people
saying that they're part of

Facebook support and that my my
business website is in danger

being taken down because I've
violated some kind of thing.

And then they're like click
click here to file an appeal and

it's like a one was a link pop
address, one was a link tree

address and the other one was a
linker address.

A Facebook is never going to
contact you to Messenger.

They're never going to have you
click a link to go anywhere.

They will e-mail you, and if
there's an issue, they'll tell

you to go into your, into your.
Account information.

And if it's a if it's a page
like a business page, there's an

actual like business center that
you go into with all that stuff

and all that information goes in
there.

They will never have you click a
link in anything.

They will tell you to go into
your account and the information

will be in there.
That's when you know it's legit.

And I've gotten three or four of
those now.

So I just, I just emailed, I
just messaged them back and go,

you know, good luck with all
that.

You know, consider yourself
reported And then I I blocked

them.
But yeah, so they're trying to

do that and they put like a
icon, you know, where their

their picture should be.
It looks like some, you know,

like a like a help center icon
with like a some with a headset

on.
It looks legit.

But they're they're not.
So please be aware there are a

lot of scams going around and no
one's inviting you to be the

Illuminati or Facebook's not
trying to contact you through

Messenger.
Just let people you know.

Let your loved ones know.
If you think they might be in

danger falling for their stuff.
Just let them know it's time to.

It's that time of year.
Start paying attention because

it's coming.
You know it's coming.

So that was that was how I spent
the last day messing with Henry

of the Illuminati.
I will keep you up to date if I

do hear back from I don't think
I will.

I'm pretty sure that me throwing
a couple of the other addresses

and then the fact that I think
as soon as he saw that I saw it

goes to the Armenian embassy, I
think that's when he stopped.

Pretty sure he knows the jig is
up.

So that's that's my Illuminati
story.

Not the first weird society that
I've been associated with.

I did for a while.
I wasn't a member, but I worked

for a company that was run by
Scientologists, and that was

interesting.
So I hear stories about

Scientology and some of the
weird things that happened in

there, and I can, I can concur
that I saw some very weird stuff

happen with people associated
with the corporate side of that

business.
And I know for a while that when

they tried to bring people up
into even lower management, they

would put them through a program
that was a Scientology Dianetics

L Ron Hubbard written training
manual.

That was always really weird.
And they wanted me to be a

supervisor.
They wanted to bring me in as a

as a like a lead.
They had a different name for

it, but they as as a lead and
then, you know, move into, you

know, working as a supervisor, a
field supervisor and all that.

And someone pointed out to me, I
didn't know at the time what

the, the background of this
company was.

And then a guy pulled me aside
and said, look, this is what's

going on.
I'm not going to tell you too

much.
I'm just going to like look up

the owner of the company, look
up a couple other things related

to Scientology and put that
together for yourself.

And I did the research and I saw
all the connections and I was

like, I went back in, I'm like,
I'm not interested.

It was really weird.
Yeah, I saw, I saw people turn

on friends and family in really
weird ways.

It it was bizarre.
So keep your, you know, I I

don't want to say that everybody
involved with Scientology is

bad, but I think the the core
idea behind it is really bad.

And I'm not a fan of organized
religion to begin with, just

simply for reasons like that.
And yeah, just let your loved

ones know.
Keep their eyes open for the

scams and the weirdness, because
there's a lot of people out

there trying to get everybody
for anything they can.

So that was the Illuminati part
of the episode.

And before I get into the
inflatable army part, I want to

talk a little bit about the the
other story I saw that was it

didn't turn into much but it's
it's really an interesting story

and it's another situation where
people want to believe and they

believe even when you're told
it's not true.

So what one of the things I like
to do is all my free time.

I got a couple minutes I'll go
through sometimes tik toks, but

they they get really crazy.
But like YouTube shorts are

pretty tame.
Facebook and Instagram reels,

though you can find some
interesting stories and that's

what I use them for.
Like last week I saw a reel and

I kind of built the episode off
of that reel.

This is another one that I saw
and it was a Joe Rogan snippet

and it was from.
Years ago I.

Don't remember exactly when, but
wasn't recent.

And he's talking to Tony Woods,
who is a comedic writer and he's

talked about how he was, he was
on vacation in the Seashells

Islands, which is off the coast
of Africa.

And there's, I think there's
hundreds of islands in this

island chain.
And he was whatever island he

was on.
I don't remember if he mentioned

it, but it was called the Sea
Chills Lagoon, I believe.

And he was there.
I think he was at a resort or

whatever he was doing there and
he was either on the beach or or

just in the water like wading in
the water.

And he sees something coming at
him rapidly.

He says like a like a missile,
like a torpedo coming through

the water, just coming straight
at him and it gets relatively

close to him and it pops up out
of the water.

And at first he thought it was a
person and kind of put their

arms up over their head and then
dove back in the water and just

took off really fast.
And he says that that he, he

doesn't want to say it was a
mermaid.

It wasn't.
It was like half fish, half

person and it it it looked male,
but it just looked like like a

human that was also part fish,
like kind of a fish like face,

but it was more like a human
shaped head.

And then yeah, he said it just
happened real quick.

And then he says, you know, just
look up the Seachells Islands

and the lagoon and mermaids and
you'll find stories about it

everywhere.
And so I did, and every story

that came up was his story.
And I thought, I'm not finding

anything because I want to see
something.

Maybe someone's got a picture or
like a crazy CGI didn't mermaid

or something.
And there's a couple clip video

clips of like what could be a
manatee or something in the

water and this this old mermaid.
And I I don't think it is.

But it it.
Dawned on me, and I don't

remember exactly when this
interview was, but a few years

ago there was a mockumentary
about mermaids and it was done.

Never anywhere in this show did
they say that it was a parody.

I think in later airings they
had to add it in the beginning,

'cause people were really
believing that this was real

because it was done like an like
an actual documentary.

Like scientists were searching
for mermaids and they found

them.
And I I got to look into it now

and see if he was one of the
writers, because he is a comedy

writer.
Was he involved in that?

And I'll have to see if I can
find the name of that

mockumentary and see if he's a
part of it.

It'd be interesting to see, but
it was just another example of a

story that seemed interesting in
the beginning and looked like

there might be more information,
and then it just went and there

was nothing.
But it led me to the next story,

and this is where we get to the
inflatable army.

This much like last week's,
where the truth was a better

story than the meme.
This turns out to be an

incredible thing.
The real I saw is by a Billy

Graziani and the the title of it
is Entertainment.

That's all it is for your
viewing.

But the the the caption on it is
imagine.

Seeing isn't believing after
all.

And this isn't the only place
I've seen this story as I after

I looked into it, other people
believe this, but the the gist

of this reel is that when the
Air Force and the US Armed

Forces withdrew from
Afghanistan, there is a video

clip showing a Boeing C-17 Globe
Master Three, I think is the

name of the the plane, but it's
a.

Huge jet cargo plane that the
military uses.

And they show this, this footage
of people surrounding it and

cheering as it's taxing down the
runway.

And they play a little bit of it
and then they back it up and the

the voice says, did you notice
anything weird about the C-17?

And then they play the clip
again, and then they point out

that the windows are completely
black and the engines are

blacked out like you can't see
the turbines.

And when they play it again and
you look at it, it looks very

much that way.
And then they say this isn't a

real C-17, this is an inflatable
prop, and they're just fooling

people into believing that this
was going on.

But I don't know why that would
be the case.

But this is what what this reel
says.

And then they show some footage
of these military soldiers

dismantling an inflatable tank,
and it looks legit.

Like they take the turret off
and there's kind of flipping it

around.
This other guy walks up to an

army truck like a what they call
like a deuce and a half, like

the big army trucks, and he's
kind of grabs it and tips it

over because it's it's fake.
And when you look at that and

you look at what they're telling
you about this C-17, this is the

danger zone here again, because
the people want to believe so

much that they're being lied to
and that there's all this

deception going on that they're
walking straight into lies and

deception and believing it.
You see the same thing with Flat

Earth, where these guys say they
give you a little bit of

information that sounds like it
might possibly be feasible and

tell you how wrong you know
science is.

And then because people want to
believe that they're being

misled, that they willingly get
misled, and it's really

dangerous.
And I could, I could see this

happening here with people too,
because some of that footage

looks real, looks really real.
And then when you look at what

they're showing you as far as
AC17, yeah, the windows are

really dark and they don't look
see through and you can't see

anything inside the engines.
It just looks like it's maybe a

black mesh inside.
So I I watched it a couple times

and then if you really look
closely, you can see light, like

from the camera angle, you can
see where the cockpit wraps

around the plane.
And on the opposite side, you

can actually see the lights
coming through in the windows

and it's it's hard to tell it
that light is just a reflection

on the window.
But yeah, when the when the

engine goes over you can't see
anything because it kind of

attacks these over the camera
holder and you can't see

anything.
It's really dark.

Their explanation for the dark
windows and the blacked out

engine is that this C-17 is in
fact a giant inflatable toy.

It is an inflatable replica of
AC17 that is being shown just

for kicks.
Just to lie to you.

I don't know why, I don't know
why anybody would do this, but

my first question when I watch
this was how are people climbing

on it?
There's people climbing on on

the sides of it, like trying to
climb.

It's obviously a hard bodied
thing.

It's not balloon.
It's not like a bounce castle.

And I think part of the, the
reasoning that they want to

believe it's not real is because
it's really low, right?

It looks like it's like it's
just skating along the ground

because C seventeens don't have
a suspension like you'd expect,

like a Boeing 7, seven, 7, 1/2.
They're designed to carry a lot

of weight and they're designed
to be able to load tanks and

trucks, vehicles easily into the
back cargo hold.

So the plane when it's on the
ground, sits really low to the

ground.
The the landing gear barely come

out of the bottom and around the
front where the nose gear would

be.
There's so many people

surrounding you can't see it, so
it looks like they're carrying

this thing down the runway, but
they're they're really not.

So the first thing I did is I
went and I found the actual

video file, right.
I I went online and I searched

for this clip and I found it
from CBS and NBC and a couple

European news agencies.
And I watched it.

And the first thing you see is,
yeah, look how dark those

windows are.
And look at that, that where the

engines are.
You can't see anything.

It looks blacked out.
If that's what you're looking to

see, that's exactly what you're
going to see.

But as you watch the clip, you
notice that there's just some

clever subtle editing done and
not CGI.

D They didn't add anything, but
they just adjusted the gain in

the contrast just enough that
the the dark parts of the plane

got a lot darker.
So the windows are just tinted,

they're heavily tinted and the
the Cowling on the engines of

AC17 is unique.
Now this is pretty easy

conclusion to come to if you do
any searches on any kind of

planes.
The C-17, especially these C

seventeens, these are US Air
Force C seventeens.

They're deployed in the Middle
East, which is a lot of desert,

which means a lot of sun, means
a lot of bright sand, and they

fly in the air above the clouds,
which means it's really bright.

So you don't want your pilots
and copilots to be blinded as

they're flying, so they heavily
tint the windows.

This is now the engines are
really recessed in these

countings.
They're really long jet engine

bodies.
Like, I forget what you call

this, like the fairings.
They're they're really deep and

with the brightness of the
surrounding area, there's

clearly sand like giant.
I don't know if it's a mountain

or giant sand dune.
The sky is kind of bright, the

runway is clearly not the it's
been bleached by the sun, so

there's a lot of light and the
camera's adjusting for that, so

all the dark looks even darker.
But I want to go a little bit

further than that.
So I just looked up the C-17 and

I found some photos and I found
some like the Air Force specs

for and all the pictures, unless
you are looking, it was just the

right light coming from in front
of the plane.

Like if the sun is in front of
the plane, it's really hard to

see those engines in any
lighting because the turbine

sits so far back in that in that
housing.

So it's it's not inflatable.
I mean these planes are like 174

feet long with 169 or 160 some
foot wingspans.

Like that's a big plane to make
as if as a fake.

And even if it was an inflatable
plane, it wouldn't be easy to

move.
That would still be really

heavy.
It would be really, really

heavy, because you'd still need
supports for the wings.

Like, they're not just going to
those aren't 160 some foot

wingspan.
You're not going to have a

balloon that's got enough
rigidity to hold that shape.

So it's there.
It's not an inflatable plane.

If you have any doubts that the
windows would be that tinted, I

pulled up images of a Boeing 777
and guess what?

The windows are tinted.
Most big airliners, jets, cargo

planes, anything like that have
heavily tinted windows.

And not to mention the fact that
the cockpits are darker inside

and when you're outside in the
light looking into a darker

room, you can't see inside.
So not a fake plane.

But what about those images?
What about the clips of the

soldiers dismantling the fake
tanks and tipping over the cars?

That is much more interesting
than an inflatable plane.

For absolutely no reason.
In World War 2, there were units

that were deployed that stayed
secret until just a couple years

ago.
They weren't allowed to tell

their family, their friends.
They weren't allowed to tell

anybody what they did, how they
did it, where they were, any of

it.
Until, I think it was two years

ago, maybe just last year, maybe
we might be within a year of

this being declassified.
And it's known as the Ghost

Army.
Now there were There was the

23rd Headquarters Special Troops
and the thirty 133rd Signal

Company Special, and they
carried out 25 battlefield

deceptions across France,
Luxembourg, Belgium, Germany and

Italy.
And they did it with inflatable

tanks, trucks, artillery, all
kinds of things.

They used sound.
They used fake radio signals.

To.
Completely fool the Germans.

And from what I'm what I'm
reading and I haven't gone

through all of, I just found out
there's a book in the

documentary.
But from what I understand so

far they would go in to where
there were troops stationed.

And I would assume overnight
they would come in.

The the troops that were
supposed to be stationed there

would leave.
And these this ghost army would

take their place and they would
put up these inflatable tanks

and and jeeps and trucks and
artillery.

And they would play sounds that
made it sound like there was

more people, made it sound like
they were building bridges, made

it sound like tanks were running
and moving.

And then the people were you
know moving about the compound

and in the area and they did
this with actual trucks that

look like they had artillery
like air to air or surface to

air missiles like these kind of
units with the like a grid of

like 9 or 12 like anti aircraft
missiles.

But instead of there being
missiles inside they were

speakers and they're to use
these to play these sounds.

And then while they were
pretending to be this large

contingent of soldiers, they
would leave like those the real

soldiers, the real battalions
would leave and go to another

area while the Germans had no
idea that they were on the move.

It's incredible they they don't
know exactly how many people did

that they saved because they got
bombed.

They were basically told your
job is to to go to the front

lines and get the Germans to
shoot at.

You you're to be.
Decoys and and not all these

soldiers made it out alive, but
they saved by some estimates 15

to 30,000 soldiers by covering
them while they were moving to

other areas.
Information they have from after

the war where they saw what was
going on with the German troops.

They found out that a lot of
times the German troops, troops

were falling for these decoys.
It's absolutely crazy.

They had, they just roll them
out there in like these these

bundles, they just roll them out
and they'd inflate them.

There'd be a tank and there'd be
a truck and there'd be a, you

know, an artillery gun.
But none of it was real.

Can you imagine, Can you imagine
that is your you're in World War

2 and you're, I think there, I
think there was 1000 soldiers

that were assigned to these,
these units.

Can you imagine you're on the
front lines with balloons.

I mean, I'm sure they had actual
rifles and they had some

ammunition and some ways to
protect themselves, but to be

there pretending that you have
battalions with you and more

people that are really there and
you have no or very little

actual artillery or tanks or
anything.

Can you imagine that?
I, I, I, I can't, I can't

believe that.
So there's there's two websites,

there's ghostarmy.org and that
is the Ghost Army Legacy

Project.
They've got all kinds of

information there.
And then there's ghostarmy.com

and that is there's that's got
information about there's a book

and there's a documentary or
some other information.

And I just found that tonight.
So I'm going to have to look

into that documentary and see
what else I can find, because

that may be a whole episode on
itself.

But there's a 3 1/2 minute video
clip on the ghostarmy.org

website that goes over some of
it.

And what I found in this
documentary clip are the actual

video clips that were used in
the inflatable C-17 meme real?

So yes, it was actual real
footage, but they're using it to

make people think that the
military is using fake C

seventeens to fool us into
believing that we had military

in Afghanistan.
I don't.

That's the problem with these.
They don't really make sense no

matter how you look at them.
But that's that's what we got.

So the Ghost Army, the really
cool story.

Definitely suggest looking into
that and then you know maybe I

will talk about the third story
real quick.

How long have you been recording
for?

Oh, I got time.
So the third story is another

one of these people will believe
to the point of nearly killing

themselves and this is related
to Flat Earth and I just I still

for the life of me I can't
figure this out.

I I really do appreciate people
thinking outside the box but

this one is just insane.
So I saw this video of this guy

and I didn't catch his name or
where he was from but he is of

the belief that the earth is
flat and that the sun is local.

Like a lot of people who believe
in Flat Earth believe that the

the sun can't possibly be
93,000,000 miles away.

It's got to be much closer,
much, much closer, and as is the

moon.
So what this guy does is what

they call powered wings,
Paragliders, right.

The basically it's a chair with
a giant fan attached to the back

and a parachute that you if you
hang from and then you take off.

So he he hops on one of these
and he's trying to fly I think

to the sun.
I think he's trying to fly to

the sun to prove that it's
within our atmosphere.

Now I don't understand why you
would think this.

There's a lot of reasons why it
wouldn't make sense.

But he he gets in his flying
wing is ultralight, is paraglide

or whatever you call him.
He starts up and he flies off

and now I've seen people there.
There's a guy locally who has

one and I've watched some of his
footage and he gets pretty high

in that and considering it's
just a chair with motor strap to

like, I got a fear of heights, I
wouldn't be able to do that.

I don't think it it looks fun,
but I don't think I could do

that.
He this guy, he's using his

phone as an altimeter.
Now I don't know how accurate

that would be, but he gets to
about 4004 thousand feet and he

says, all right, I'm going, it
should be in about another 1000

feet up.
I don't know if he doesn't

understand how far 1000 feet is,
but you would think that at if

you believe the sun is 5000 feet
up, or even if you think the sun

is 10 miles up, wherever high up
they think it is.

If you were. 4000 feet it it
should be changing its size, its

relative size.
It should be appearing larger to

you.
You should be getting warmer

because you're getting closer to
the sun.

He gets to 5000 feet and of
course sun's not there.

He keeps going.
He gets to like 9 to 10,000 feet

still going.
I I guess one of these can get

that high.
I don't know.

I don't know if that's even
possible.

He says he got up to 17,000 feet
and as he's approaching his at

this elevation, he's like.
I'm starting to get cold.

No kidding, No.
Commercial jets fly.

I think they're between 30 and
50,000 feet.

I think 50,000 is like their
their upper limit to avoid

storms, usually around 30,000
feet.

So he is more than halfway to
where jets would fly, expecting

to see the sun, I think below
him at this point.

Like, don't you think that
commercial airliners would have

run into the sun by now If it
was within our atmospheres?

There would be news stories of
people crashing into the sun and

if you could get an ultra light
that high, it definitely would

have happened.
So he's, he's starting to

complain, it's getting cold.
And then he's he's having a hard

time getting oxygen because he's
17,000 feet in the freaking sky.

And then it finally dawns on
him.

This is a really bad idea,
because I think maybe he looked

down and realized he's just in a
basically a lawn chair with a

fan attached to back in a very
small parachute.

And that's kind of the end of
the clip.

Now I would guess, and I could
be wrong, I'm, I'm not sure this

absolutely, but I know in
commercial flight at at 30

thousand, 50,000 feet, you can
see a very slight curvature of

the earth.
And I know a lot of people say,

well, that's just in the windows
or your camera's got a lens.

No, it's been shown, it's been
proven.

You can see it.
It's very slight, but you can

see it.
I don't know if you could see it

at 17,000 feet with naked eye,
but he had to notice that the

sun wasn't getting any closer
and that he was getting colder

instead of warmer, which he
should be if you're getting that

close to the sun.
So again this guy believed so

much that he flew a chair with a
fan and a parachute that to

17,000 feet to try to get to the
sun and that's dangerous.

Now I know in season 4I covered
the guy and I don't remember his

name and I apologize, but he is
Mike something, maybe Mike Smith

MM something.
And he built a steam powered

rocket so that he could prove
the earth was flat and he kept

trying to launch and he'd have
technical issues.

And then he tried to launch, he
had technical issues and they

tried to launch and then you
know he was on like state land

or government land or somewhere
and people like you're not doing

that from our land.
And he wound up finally getting

a permit or permission from
somebody somewhere to launch his

steam powered rocket.
And they didn't end well.

And he wound up dying for it.
It's really dangerous.

And I again, I appreciate people
thinking outside the box, but at

some point you've got to think
that what you're doing is

really, really dangerous.
And sometimes there's just not a

conspiracy.
Sometimes.

Sometimes there is, sometimes
there's a conspiracy.

Sometimes there's cover ups.
But the shape of the Earth

probably is not one of them.
So that's all I got for this

episode.
There's a lot of crazy stories

out there that people are either
very eager to fall for or maybe

they just they don't know and
it's it's believable.

And I don't like the term
gullible because I think we've

all believed something at some
point that wasn't true.

It it happens.
Just especially this time this

time of year that the holiday
season when people are looking

for ways to get everything they
can out of people.

Just look after your loved ones
that that may be susceptible to

following the things like this
and just keep an eye on keep.

Keep them grounded so to speak.
If you got any questions or

comments or concerns you can
contact the show at

podcast@primitiveintelligence.com.
I hope you guys enjoyed this.

It was fun.
Fun episode.

I expect the the next two, you
know 19 and 20 to be similar.

I'm, I'm not looking to do a ton
of research this late in the

season because I was expecting
the season to be over.

But I will, Jay, look at maybe
also doing some bonus episodes

between seasons 5 and six.
And what I might do is look back

at some of the topics that Rocco
and I covered back in seasons

one and two when the episodes
weren't quite put together and

there was a lot of tangents and
we just kind of rambled.

But we did touch on a few topics
and maybe I'll go back and and

dig through some of those that
may have more or less

information now than it did back
then.

So we'll see what happens with
that now.

This is the actually the second
time I've recorded this because

on the first attempt a setting
changed to my computer somewhere

for some reason and it was not
recording through my good

microphone.
It recorded through the built in

microphone and it sounded like
garbage.

So this either sounds better
this time or you're just getting

a crappy sounding podcast
because I'm not going to record

it for a third time.
Sorry, just not doing.

It's almost 1:00 in the morning,
so I got to get this edited and

then upload it now to you guys.
Hope you enjoyed it.

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That's all I got for this week.