Season 5 · Episode notes
Bonus Ep. 2 - The Harrowing Tale of Krokodil
This bonus episode looks back at the first topic we covered here on the Primitive Intelligence Podcast... the Russian Zombie Drug - Krokodil.
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Links:
- https://open.spotify.com/episode/5dB7WDTyeHICbOm5ZSpmzo?si=PNaSQl6XTHaqj0FqpbCpHQ
- https://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/385/S3/61
- https://www.cmaj.ca/content/191/25/E712
- https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/article-abstract/2089838
- https://calpoison.org/news/krokodil
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Read the transcript
In this episode, we're diving
into the haunting realm of
Crocodile, a drug that shattered
lives and sent shock waves
through communities originating
in Russia around 2002.
Crocodile, named after the
Russian word for Crocodile,
isn't just the substance of
addiction.
It's a toxic concoction that
disfigures and destroys those
who fall under its grip.
This homemade opioid injectable,
derived from codeine and easily
accessible materials, has
sparked fear and fascination in
equal measure.
It's spread across Europe,
brought with it disturbing
tales, earning titles like The
Drug That Each Junk Is Alive and
The Russian Zombie Drug.
Reports highlight the harrowing
aftermath of its use, leaving
users with green, black, scaling
skin discoloration, and severe
cutaneous infections that lead
to necrosis and gangrene.
This was actually the first
topic Rocco and I talked about
way back in the very first
episode of the Primitive
Intelligence Podcast.
Here's a clip from that episode.
So before we started recording,
you started telling us about a
story.
Yes, I wanted to.
Actually, I saw this and it was
horrifying.
I heard some sort of report
about Of course it had to be
something about zombies.
I don't know exactly why.
They were talking about a new
drug that was causing zombie
like behavior, which is nothing
new these days.
I was thinking it was going to
be basalt and it was in Russia
and it's called crocodile,
Crocodile.
Crocodile you have to pull.
This I'm I'm going to pull it up
right now.
And apparently this is some sort
of homemade drug, which I guess
they all are, and it's instantly
addictive from what I
understand.
And not only is it instantly
addictive, it strips the flesh
off of your body and whoever is
on it continues to do whatever
they can to, you know, rob
steel, do whatever they can to
get them drug, even though the
skin is literally falling off
their off their body.
So you have to actually take a
look at the pictures because I
saw some of the pictures and
it's horrifying.
I've not heard of it here, but I
heard about it.
It's.
In.
In Russia.
Well, yeah, I just.
I just started typing in Russian
Zombie and it came up.
Russian zombie drug crocodile.
Crocodile Crocodile.
Crocodile Crocodile Crocodile.
Yeah, they call it that because
it does something to the skin to
make it look crocodile like, and
then it starts to fall off.
Oh yeah, well look the the
website that it came up is
called God.
Like productions.
So I I don't know how much this
I'm going to believe, yeah.
Here's all you got to do.
Everybody out there just got to
call it images.
Images.
And you will be horrified.
I saw my first image I saw was a
forearm, but not a forearm, the
bones of a forearm.
And somebody sitting there like
like staring at the camera, like
smiling or something.
Although it would be hard.
Oh yeah.
Oh, dear God, yes.
Yeah.
Oh, come on.
Some of these can't be real.
Look at it.
Take a look.
At this, Yeah, look like, tell
me what you think.
I mean, I just look in real
quick.
That's that's some CGI, no.
It's not.
Make up?
Yeah, that's not.
Come on.
Look at that.
Look at that dude with the
teeth.
That's not.
The dude with the teeth, That's.
Oh no, that's not.
Right.
Yeah, that's exactly that's.
The same that's that's I lost my
audio.
That's awesome.
Oh, I'm unplugging if you hear
something.
For a second, that is, that's
just.
Unfortunately, it looks like the
original article mentioned in
that episode now requires a
membership to access.
And dear Lord, do we sound young
there?
But what's the chemistry behind
this deadly drug?
Researchers delved into the
murky synthesis of crocodile
unraveling a complex web of
substances and reactions
involved analytical techniques
that I have no idea what they
are.
Or these are just letters to me.
But techniques like GCMS and
RPHPLCDAD, no idea what those
are, were employed to detect
desomorphine, the primary
psychoactive compound, and shed
light on the myriad of chemical
components within the crocodile
mixture.
Yet amidst the darkness, there
is a glimmer of hope.
From this chemical complexity,
researchers identified a mixture
of morphinins, compounds with
potential clinical applications
for treating opioid abuse, pain
and various disorders, a silver
lining in a realm rife with
devastation.
But make no mistake, the
consequences of crocodile use
are dire.
It's a drug with a frighteningly
short survival window of just
two years post initial use.
Its production process, a crude
and perilous affair involving
codeine, household solvents, and
other hazardous materials, leads
to immediate and extensive
tissue damage upon injection.
So one of the cases I found I'm
going to I'm going to read you
the case presentation.
A 25 year old woman arrived at
the emergency department after
experiencing a week of
discomfort, inflammation, and
open sores on her right thigh.
While she typically used heroin
on a daily basis, a recent job
loss LED her to seek cheaper
alternatives for heroin via the
Internet.
Over the past few months, she
had been injecting A substance
called Crocodile Purchase from
an online Russian seller.
Initially she noticed blistering
in the affected area, which
later progressed in the painful
ulcers with tissue decay.
During examination, her
temperature measured 101°F.
Her heart rate was 125 beats per
minute and her blood pressure
read 115 / 60.
The the front of her right thigh
appeared swollen with redness
and several significant decaying
ulcerations.
She was admitted to the hospital
and received treatment involving
intravenous antibiotics and
wound care.
However, she decided to leave
the hospital and there was no
follow up after that.
In regions where crocodile use
presists, limited access to
adequate healthcare can worsen
the already severe
complications.
Often medical attention is saw
only in the advanced stages of
tissue damage, sometimes leading
severe consequences like
mutilation, amputation or even
death.
When individuals do seek help,
extensive wound care and
intravenous antibiotics become
necessary.
Sadly, amputation remains the
sole recourse in many cases.
Reports underline the potent
nature of desimorphine,
promoting frequent redosing and
binge patterns that span several
days.
These prolonged binges bring
about sleep deprivation, poor
hygiene, malnutrition,
escalating the risk of further
health complications.
The varying potency of
desomorphine amplifies the
threat of overdose.
Treatment protocols must address
not just the localized tissue
destruction, but also the
potential for widespread organ
damage in cases of respiratory
depression.
Administering naloxone via
intravenous injections becomes
crucial for immediate
intervention.
So when Rocco first brought this
to the show, it was kind of
coined as the zombie drug, and
that's what people were focused
on.
All those zombie ISM stories
were turned out to just be
sensationalized media posts.
And luckily crocodile seems to
have fallen off the map in large
part thanks to codeine being
restricted to prescription only
status in a lot of countries.
We really don't need a zombie
drug.
We also don't need a drug that
makes your skin fall off, and
the fact that it's no longer
really a thing is a blessing.
It really is a silver lining.
Want to thank you for checking
out this second bonus episode of
Primitive Intelligence Podcast.
I hope you guys enjoyed it.
As always, you can contact the
show at
podcast@primitiveintelligence.com
that's going to do it for me
this week.
See ya.
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