Bonus Ep. 4 - How Many Discrepancies are Too Many?

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Primitive Intelligence Podcast

bonus episode #4.
How many discrepancies are too

many?
While doing research, come

across stories that look good on
the surface but often fall

apart.
We'll take a look at that.

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We've done a lot of talk of

Bigfoot and things like that on
the Primitive Intelligence

podcast.
Too many to pull clips for and

talk about.
We've done some this year in a

previous seasons.
But sometimes these stories,

although they sound fascinating,
when you really look at the

details, they start to fall
apart.

I'm going to pull one example
from right here in Pennsylvania

that I found on a it's a My Maps
Bigfoot encounter website that

shows pins of all the different
encounters across Pennsylvania.

So let's take a look at the
talking points of this report.

In the late 80s to mid 90s,
unnamed truck driver was working

for a company in Allentown, PA
transporting jet engine parts

from Philadelphia, PA to
Connecticut.

His return route was Interstate
84 through Connecticut and York

into Pennsylvania, and then
taking route two O 9 S to

Stroudsburg before going back to
Allentown.

Just before the Gulf War, which
started in April of 1990, he had

an encounter on Route 2O9 near
the toll booth at Tox Island Dam

State Park.
ACB conversation with another

truck driver named Dave warned
him of figures near the Creek

bridge.
As he approached the bridge, he

saw three large figures walking
on the deserted Rd.

The creatures were 8 foot, 7
foot and five feet tall.

They were dark.
Two of them had red eye shine,

One had yellow eye shine.
They had Neanderthal like faces,

no visible necks, long arms and
massive builds.

The figures crossed the road and
vanished into a nearby field,

emitting A foul smell.
Now the driver was paralyzed

with fear and he was stopped in
the middle of the road.

He had to start moving again
only because there was oncoming

traffic.
But later conversations with the

other driver named Dave,
revealed that he had seen these

creatures before, never in a
group.

He would always see them by
themselves, seemingly confirming

the presence of encounters in
the area.

The incident location coincides
with a previous possible Class B

encounter that the original
unnamed driver had in 1984 on

the other side of the Delaware
River on the New Jersey side.

Now, Class B encounter means
that they found evidence of

Bigfoot didn't see the creature
itself.

Now, the story sounds great.
I mean, it's a great report, but

let's look at the information.
Here's some things that could or

could possibly be correct.
It is possible that there could

have been a company transporting
jet engine parts from

Philadelphia to Connecticut.
I didn't go through and look all

that up.
It's possible.

Interstate 84 does run through
Connecticut, New York and

Pennsylvania.
Tox Island is in that general

area along Route Two O 9 and
Route 2O9 does go to

Stroudsburg, and here's where
the discrepancies start.

It's never stated what kind of
truck is used, but up until

2022, commercial vehicles of any
type were banned from that part

of Two O 9.
This would make using Route 2O9A

really bad choice for a trucking
company or a driver.

It would make you more sense to
use Route 2O6 in New Jersey if

you were going to come that way.
But if you're coming from

Connecticut, you would probably
use 84 to 87 around to

Interstate 80 and then over
Stroudsburg.

You wouldn't go that far.
And there's a good reason for

that.
And it ties into this next part.

Tox Island Dam is not now, nor
has it ever been a State Park

for Pennsylvania or New Jersey.
In fact, there are no state

parks in PA or New Jersey along
that part of the Delaware River.

The closest is in New Jersey.
It's High Point State Park.

It's at the very northern end,
and it's 6 miles east of the

Pennsylvania, New Jersey border,
which is the Delaware River.

You wouldn't get that confused
with the State Park in PA Now

here's here's why they wouldn't
risk using this route.

Route 2O9 does, however, go
through the Upper Delaware

Scenic and Recreational River
area, which is a part of the

National Park Service.
A trucking company or driver

would not risk a violation in
there.

Licenses would be lost.
The quote tollbooth is on route

2O9.
It is like a check in station

for the National Recreation
Area.

It hasn't been used in years,
although it may be again at some

point, but it's still there.
But it's almost 25 miles north

of Tox Island Dam which is a
conservation area.

Tox Island is almost 3 miles
from Route Two O 9, and a river

can't be seen from Two O 9 at
that point.

It's way down at the southern
end of the recreation area.

The only bridge nearby the Tox
Island area and to the South,

according to how his story
reads, isn't exactly in the

remote area.
It may be a half mile little

swath of land, but it's
surrounded by houses, commercial

businesses, golf courses, and
hospitals, not somewhere you

would expect to see Bigfoot.
And if you did, you'd see a lot

more reports of it closer N to
where the toll booth is.

There is one bridge on a turn,
but there's no fields close

enough to make it a perfect
match.

There are fields in the area,
and I know exactly where those

fields are, but they're not near
this bridge.

It's a really interesting story,
but as I say, the devil's in the

details.
Just because the report sounds

promising doesn't mean that's
correct.

This seems like someone looked
at a map trying to figure out

what would be the best route to
get through a fairly remote

area, made-up a story, but never
checked on the details, such as

you would never be driving to a
commercial truck at any time of

day through that area.
Hope you guys enjoyed this bonus

episode of the podcast.
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That's going to do it for me.

See ya.